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Rex

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122. And yet, both are treated the same way under the law.

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:17 PM

Jun 2013

Why was that? Is that admitting that as long as you are in the executive branch, all actions (legal or illegal) doesn't matter since you have immunity?

Why did Clinton almost lose his job over a blowjob, yet Bush and Cheney run roughshod over the Constitution and get treated like war heroes!?

Why is that?

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They did NOT listen to your phone calls. Repeat: They did NOT listen to your phone calls [View all] Uzair Jun 2013 OP

BUT...BUT...BUT Drale Jun 2013 #1

I think you mean that legally they're not supposed to. BenzoDia Jun 2013 #2

If anyone on this board is having a brain melting explosion of outrage... gcomeau Jun 2013 #3

I would have put that in a less vociferous way but...yeah! randome Jun 2013 #9

Awesome! JoePhilly Jun 2013 #13

One hint might be... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #18

Expecting evidence resulting from a classified/covert operation dgibby Jun 2013 #29

That confuses me. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #42

I'm saying that we will not be given the evidence or the results. dgibby Jun 2013 #71

Of course we'll know. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #74

Of course not. dgibby Jun 2013 #77

I'm open to hearing more. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #88

i don't know. dgibby Jun 2013 #113

Maybe they didn't/don't fredamae Jun 2013 #4

No Recursion Jun 2013 #10

What I'm hearing so far fredamae Jun 2013 #23

If they are storing phone content, that's news to me. Got a source? (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #27

Well, lol-Can you prove fredamae Jun 2013 #44

I can tell you how much storage that would take, and how it's about 10 times the amount of storage Recursion Jun 2013 #45

Zettabytes n/t fredamae Jun 2013 #47

And there's two of those in the world (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #61

How many Yottabyte Centers" fredamae Jun 2013 #70

feels different snooper2 Jun 2013 #31

EVERYTHING digital is stored forever. VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #20

Why is this sort of Security Task contracted out to begin with? rrneck Jun 2013 #36

I'm afraid we don't know that. cali Jun 2013 #5

^^^This^^^ premium Jun 2013 #11

If ProSense Jun 2013 #17

from the op: "you may now resume your regularly scheduled poutrage" cali Jun 2013 #39

& you will resume posting fabricated bullshit on the forum ... eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #105

This is just hilarious Uzair Jun 2013 #83

The problem isn't that Obama broke the law, the problem is that he didn't need to PID767 Jun 2013 #6

Where has a law been broken exactly? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #21

Because of the unwillingness disidoro01 Jun 2013 #7

That's false. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #16

Do you disidoro01 Jun 2013 #73

A few things. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #101

FYI OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #107

Thanks ... looks like the 1700ish number was for 2011. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #109

Joe disidoro01 Jun 2013 #108

See the response to me with "FYI" above yours ... it has a year by year list of the requests. JoePhilly Jun 2013 #112

If we learned ANYTHING from "The Wire" KinMd Jun 2013 #8

You can't know one way or another for sure. Nobody can. You see, it's all a "secret." PSPS Jun 2013 #12

BILLING information is what appears to have been collected. IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #14

Here's a little something for you, Ida.. Cha Jun 2013 #124

OMG -- IdaBriggs Jun 2013 #130

Um.. the problem with this is.. it doesn't work SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #15

storing is not in and of itself spying... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #24

What does that have to do with the fact that it doesn't work? SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #28

and what is supposed to be outraging me exactly? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #34

LOL... SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #40

So if these patterns are not worth spending money on VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #63

by the way....digital storage space is cheap!!! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #64

Why do you keep comparing terrorism to shopping? SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #69

I work with data every day.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #82

Uh.. Ok... SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #94

We are NOT broke... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #96

Perhaps you haven't seen this... KurtNYC Jun 2013 #50

At least it provides techies a steady job and (I heard) a fairly good paycheck... Amonester Jun 2013 #59

Then why did Clapper commit perjury? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #19

Do you support the right to a trial before conviction Progressive dog Jun 2013 #43

Clapper testified under oath that there was no blanket data-gathering operations being conducted Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #49

I already knew how you would vote as a juror Progressive dog Jun 2013 #55

When a person consciously states something they know to be false that person is lying. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #57

No I'm asserting that he has not been convicted of perjury Progressive dog Jun 2013 #65

"When do you suppose the congress will charge him?" Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #67

There you go and when he's convicted I'll assert Progressive dog Jun 2013 #68

Do you assert he told the truth? Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #81

How would I know Progressive dog Jun 2013 #93

Whatever. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #110

So where's the Wyden accused Clapper of perjury part nt Progressive dog Jun 2013 #111

You're being as ridiculous and disingenous as Clapper trying to explain away his outright lying Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #114

When you claim that someone lies, you have to prove it Progressive dog Jun 2013 #117

What weasel word? You're not making any direct assertions. Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #118

Facts not in evidence, so no direct assertions Progressive dog Jun 2013 #120

You're as lousy a liar as Clapper Nuclear Unicorn Jun 2013 #121

Coming from you, that is a compliment Progressive dog Jun 2013 #123

*crickets* frylock Jun 2013 #97

Traffic analysis... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #22

How do you KNOW they did NOT listen to MY phone calls? Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #25

For fuck's sake. Uzair Jun 2013 #84

Obama said they didn't record MY calls? Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #87

Oh! Oh! I know! Marr Jun 2013 #115

If anyone listens to my phone calls Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #26

You and me both eissa Jun 2013 #32

lol! HappyMe Jun 2013 #37

That's because everyone knows you're a Bieber-ite. randome Jun 2013 #60

And in a related story ... Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #76

Whether or not they listen to your phone calls isn't the issue, not really. PDJane Jun 2013 #30

And we know this... how? krispos42 Jun 2013 #33

The storage capacity in the Utah Data Center is beyond what you imagine... SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #46

So, a billion terabytes in a zettabyte krispos42 Jun 2013 #125

Were you not listening when Obama said so? Uzair Jun 2013 #85

I don't believe him. krispos42 Jun 2013 #129

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jun 2013 #35

the numbskulls raging about are not interested in what actually happened MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #38

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Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #58

Then I'm sure you don't mind handing your Facebook friends list to the feds. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #48

+1. All these bored white people need new hobbies. sagat Jun 2013 #51

white people? frylock Jun 2013 #99

Okay, since you believe everything you are told, what do you make of this... KurtNYC Jun 2013 #52

*I* believe everything I'm told? Uzair Jun 2013 #86

why do YOU believe the word of the president? frylock Jun 2013 #100

Because the preponderance of evidence is with the shit and Obama did NOT say that they weren't KurtNYC Jun 2013 #131

But they may have stored it. dkf Jun 2013 #53

"They did NOT listen to your phone calls." dgibby Jun 2013 #54

My oh my look at all the conspiracy theorists in here! Uzair Jun 2013 #90

like the conspiracy theorists claiming this is all a rovian setup? frylock Jun 2013 #102

Thank you! Jane Austin Jun 2013 #56

METADATA IS MORE INTRUSIVE! REPEAT: METADATA IS MORE INTRUSIVE! Are_grits_groceries Jun 2013 #62

Please make an OP of this post so I can K&R backscatter712 Jun 2013 #72

Very insightful, thank you. nt Union Scribe Jun 2013 #75

This needs to be an op. dgibby Jun 2013 #80

Do you trust your government? Repeat: Do you trust your government? kentuck Jun 2013 #66

Well dog gone it, that done gone settles it. Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #78

I can't hear you to much static on my line between the beeps. William769 Jun 2013 #79

How the hell do you know??? former9thward Jun 2013 #89

Because OBAMA SAID SO Uzair Jun 2013 #91

Because Obama said so Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #132

prove it frylock Jun 2013 #92

What, we're proving negatives now? Uzair Jun 2013 #95

you made the claim. surely it can be verified by more than obama's word. frylock Jun 2013 #104

Even the ones where my sister and I talked badly about Newt? Phentex Jun 2013 #98

Anyone who uses the word "poutrage" has nothing constructive to add to a discussion. n/t TheBadWolf Jun 2013 #103

Nobody is forcing you to post here if you are so put off...eom Kolesar Jun 2013 #106

**But if it's eventually revealed that they *did*, I'll explain how that's perfectly ok!! Marr Jun 2013 #116

THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO COLLECT AND STORE IT IN THE FIRST PLACE. woo me with science Jun 2013 #119

And yet, both are treated the same way under the law. Rex Jun 2013 #122

A week ago, Clapper said they weren't collecting data wholesale MannyGoldstein Jun 2013 #126

That story seems to be contradicted by Snowden's account, I think an investigation is long over do usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #127

THEY STORED YOUR PHONE CALLS SO THEY COULD LISTEN TO THEM LATER. I REPEAT: Th1onein Jun 2013 #128

They saved the metadata they can go back later nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #133