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In reply to the discussion: Why Edward Snowden Is a Hero [View all]WillyT
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For most Americans, the main concern will be domestic spying, and the chronic lack of oversight that Snowdens leaks have highlighted. In the years since 9/11, the spying agencies have been given great leeway to expand their activities, with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Court, which deals with legal requests from the agencies, and the congressional intelligence committees, which nominally oversees all of their activities, all too often acting as rubber stamps rather than proper watchdogs.
Partly, that was due to lack of gumption and an eagerness to look tough on issues of counterterrorism. But it also reflected a lack of information. Just a couple of months ago, at a Senate hearing, Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden, one of the few legislators to sound any misgivings over the activities of the intelligence agencies, asked Clapper, Does the N.S.A. collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans? To which Clapper replied: No, sir. (He added, Not wittingly.) At another hearing, General Keith Alexander, the director of the N.S.A., denied fourteen times that the agency had the technical capability to intercept e-mails and other online communications in the United States.
Thanks to Snowden, and what he told the Guardian and the Washington Post, we now have cause to doubt the truth of this testimony. In Snowdens words: The N.S.A. has built an infrastructure that allows it to intercept almost everything. With this capability, the vast majority of human communications are automatically ingested without targeting. If I wanted to see your emails or your wifes phone, all I have to do is use intercepts. I can get your emails, passwords, phone records, credit cards.
Were Clapper and Alexander deliberately lying? If so, perhaps Snowden should be extradited to the United States and dragged into courtbut only as part of a proceeding in which the two spymasters face charges of misleading Congress. I suppose you could make the argument that he is a naïve young man who didnt fully understand the dangerous nature of the world in which we live. You could question his motives, and call him a publicity seeker, or an idiot. (Fleeing to Hong Kong wasnt very smart.) But he doesnt sound like an airhead; he sounds like that most awkward and infuriating of creaturesa man of conscience. I dont want to live in a society that does these sort of things, he told Greenwald. I do not want to live in a world where everything I do and say is recorded. That is not something I am willing to support or live under.
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