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31. Worked out well for those kids that were bullied on Facebook. nt

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Let's make this clear: responding to your teenage child's words with violence is NOT OKAY. [View all] TheWraith Feb 2012 OP

I doubt it was actually her laptop. Brickbat Feb 2012 #1

The OP is right. renie408 Feb 2012 #5

Yeah, I'm not so sure. Brickbat Feb 2012 #15

Yes, in some ways you're right. originalpckelly Feb 2012 #21

I didn't see him passionately angry. Brickbat Feb 2012 #23

you didn't see him period SemperEadem Feb 2012 #111

No, I watched the video, too. Brickbat Feb 2012 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author PavePusher Feb 2012 #158

"but it's so easy to see how this could go wrong." PavePusher Feb 2012 #159

Yep. There is a huge cultural gap here. arely staircase Feb 2012 #25

Ok. You chuck your kid's stuff out the window when they piss you off and I'll talk renie408 Feb 2012 #30

+1. nt awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #151

And I'm guessing I know whose kids will end up in trouble more. TheWraith Feb 2012 #196

So a baseball bat would have been ok? hack89 Feb 2012 #154

You knew this was coming..... PavePusher Feb 2012 #160

Are we going there on this? originalpckelly Feb 2012 #8

If you were the descendant of Appalachian coal miners you would not feel this way. antigone382 Feb 2012 #35

Haters gonna hate. renie408 Feb 2012 #39

i have refered to myself as a redneck who left..... rppper Feb 2012 #102

I'm still in East Texas jamesatemple Feb 2012 #117

Well writen friend... rppper Feb 2012 #224

Awesome post... chervilant Feb 2012 #132

It makes absolutely no difference to me who it was or how it was done. TheWraith Feb 2012 #14

Thanks for the response. Brickbat Feb 2012 #20

DING DING DING! Wraith, you're our grand prize winner! rocktivity Feb 2012 #107

I don't understand this... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #143

Aww, you beat me to it. Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #178

Sorry bout that... JSnuffy Feb 2012 #179

Yeah, because shooting the place up is EXACTLY the same as revoking privileges. TheWraith Feb 2012 #197

Wow! They are living in a laptop!?!? Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #199

Sorry, I think you are wrong on this: PavePusher Feb 2012 #161

She's not 18. It wasn't hers, period. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #59

People under 18 can't own things? thesquanderer Feb 2012 #118

Yes, it was obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #123

Wow. chervilant Feb 2012 #130

No, no abuse in my past, but thank you for your concern. Brickbat Feb 2012 #134

Oh, by all means, chervilant Feb 2012 #136

Oh look! I was right. Brickbat Feb 2012 #138

Aww... chervilant Feb 2012 #139

something the daughter said... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #150

Personally I believe he should respect his daughters privacy. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #2

It's a good thing she learned now that nothing on Facebook is truly private. Brickbat Feb 2012 #4

Exactly, when is she going to have a life where her parents don't constantly hound her? originalpckelly Feb 2012 #11

Not to mention she actually DOES these chores instead of telling him to go f**k himself. FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #33

Worked out well for those kids that were bullied on Facebook. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #31

Can you point me to the "respect my privacy" facebook function? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #63

But he said it's privacy setting was on so he couldn't see it, but he worked in IT so he was able to FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #92

It's right next to the "We expect petulance from children, but not from adults" button. LanternWaste Feb 2012 #202

I guess, since the acorn doesn't fall far from the tree... lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #205

I agree. A kid should be able to vent about her parents to friends. This is crazy. stevenleser Feb 2012 #163

I find it appalling that this is all over the internet. tabatha Feb 2012 #3

He could have tried listening to her for a change and maybe realizing that she has a valid point... renie408 Feb 2012 #7

She could have taught him a thing or two about people's place in life. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #32

And he could have taught her about maturity. LanternWaste Feb 2012 #203

We can only wait and see if it is effective. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #204

Exactly. If anything, he demonstrated a much bigger tantrum than his daughter could have. TheWraith Feb 2012 #17

Are you angry?! Then use a gun and shoot sumthin'! FarLeftFist Feb 2012 #6

Agreed. yardwork Feb 2012 #9

I agree. renie408 Feb 2012 #10

You know why: it's a different way of thinking about kids. originalpckelly Feb 2012 #16

Yep. renie408 Feb 2012 #29

You are lucky. Your story is identical to mine, same incredible older child, same loving joy, riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #40

My father, brother, both my sisters and my husband are alcoholics. renie408 Feb 2012 #48

She's only 15 now. Out of rehab since Dec 11. We own and operate a 40 horse barn riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #51

you are a heartless abusive monster and Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #53

. riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #56

Holy. Shit. renie408 Feb 2012 #66

Thanks. She and one of my husband's advanced horses just completely clicked. riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #78

To continue with the hijack.. renie408 Feb 2012 #142

Oh, I hear you about riding stoned.... it's just the "barn chat" riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #146

Huh? Posting, among other things, that the temporary household help... PavePusher Feb 2012 #162

No it is not just luck. wilsonbooks Feb 2012 #58

" Treat your children as adults and respect them and they will respond in kind." boppers Feb 2012 #109

The people I've seen who get all hung up over "respect" are hedgehog Feb 2012 #18

Some people believe kids should automatically respect their parents. TheWraith Feb 2012 #24

Ding! Ding! Ding! This father sounds like a monomaniacal authoritarian dickhead par coalition_unwilling Feb 2012 #180

Simply put, daddy is an asshole AnOhioan Feb 2012 #12

I agree. Shooting her computer is just over the top violence. It's also strange that Liquorice Feb 2012 #13

Let me throw a log on the fire... is shooting things common in gun culture? riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #19

We're not talking about some abstract or bleeding-heart definition of "abusive" or "coercive." TheWraith Feb 2012 #27

Okay. riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #34

The first step is to install good PC monitoring software so that you know exactly what is going on FarCenter Feb 2012 #41

Gee, and I am just friends with my kids on Facebook. I never thought about the Orwellian approach. renie408 Feb 2012 #42

Thanks. You can bet I've had to go there and do all of that. riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #43

It's a good idea if you don't want a big bill for copyright infringement from RIAA, etc. FarCenter Feb 2012 #44

My daughter's nefarious activities aren't tech related, she's seduced by a different dark side riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #45

Yes and best to put cameras all over the house, a gps tracker in the car, and perhaps Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #46

She's 15, so not old enough to be in a car FarCenter Feb 2012 #52

I have a funny story about my 14 year old and the car... riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #64

ROFL!!!! PavePusher Feb 2012 #164

Depends on the state, but good point, scrimp on the gps tracking device Warren Stupidity Feb 2012 #74

Again, none of that matters. TheWraith Feb 2012 #47

People make too much of Facebook treestar Feb 2012 #175

Pretty much. arely staircase Feb 2012 #28

It seems contrary to what I've been taught about guns... Hippo_Tron Feb 2012 #106

I agree with you obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #22

Her property? boppers Feb 2012 #110

gifts. That is how a child aquires property that is theirs SemperEadem Feb 2012 #112

No income means your "gifts" are the property of those who support you. eom. boppers Feb 2012 #114

Totally not true obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #124

So, can you show me case law where a parent bought a computer, but the child legally owned it? boppers Feb 2012 #174

um, no SemperEadem Feb 2012 #217

How many of your possessions has your child ruined? boppers Feb 2012 #222

none SemperEadem Feb 2012 #225

You have a magical child, then. boppers Feb 2012 #226

no, she was brought up right. SemperEadem Feb 2012 #229

It's called a "gift," and gifts are property obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #122

I had the same thoughts maximusveritas Feb 2012 #26

The main problem being that children don't get spoiled and entitled on their own. renie408 Feb 2012 #38

Well, he did supply her a computer.... boppers Feb 2012 #223

Boy are you RIGHT on the money on this one! Rex Feb 2012 #36

I agree, the Wraith. JDPriestly Feb 2012 #37

The guy should be arrested or something. I was raised in a family where ONE could NEVER get mad Justice wanted Feb 2012 #49

Now that you're a grownup, are your children encouraged to yell at you? lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #62

If I had kids I'd let them vent unfortunately I do not have kids. Parents do make mistakes and Justice wanted Feb 2012 #71

With all due respect... lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #72

YES we must disagree. A child should beable to express feelings and emotions like adults AND Justice wanted Feb 2012 #73

Some risks are more abstract than matches. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #75

AND you are SOOOOOO ready to tell me I am wrong you are not understand my use of the word of Justice wanted Feb 2012 #76

No. You don't need to learn to express all emotions. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #77

Whatever. Justice wanted Feb 2012 #80

I think he just proved your point. PavePusher Feb 2012 #165

The post suggests why she found family life oppressive. lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #168

"I AM the boss of you." - you talk like that to your kids? inna Feb 2012 #89

Neener. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #144

I certainly would. sibelian Feb 2012 #228

Again, with the black and white. There is a difference between discipline and punishment; between renie408 Feb 2012 #140

If, as a parent, you're disagreeing with the basic point I proposed upthread: lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #148

Every child IS different. renie408 Feb 2012 #182

discharging a firearm inside a dwelling should be the first step in that process. SemperEadem Feb 2012 #113

I am not anti-gun, but when I watched the video, ZombieHorde Feb 2012 #50

Here we go again... TreasonousBastard Feb 2012 #54

Yep. Lizzie Poppet Feb 2012 #57

Ayup. Puglover Feb 2012 #61

+1. nt riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #65

You are right. I have always thought spanking was wrong. But now I see it is just renie408 Feb 2012 #68

This. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2012 #69

Oh I'm sorry, clearly YOU are the morally superior one here! TheWraith Feb 2012 #82

Maybe, but I'm just one of the few... TreasonousBastard Feb 2012 #85

The guy posted the video on the internet... Hippo_Tron Feb 2012 #105

Agreed, there is no excuse for that treestar Feb 2012 #55

How long will mercuryblues Feb 2012 #60

I am stunned by the support for this guy. LadyHawkAZ Feb 2012 #67

+ 1,000,000,000 n/t chervilant Feb 2012 #210

There's so much overreaction going on Union Scribe Feb 2012 #70

And not one person knows him, his daughter, (if he has one) or... TreasonousBastard Feb 2012 #81

LOL ohheckyeah Feb 2012 #79

Agreed!!! Donate the laptop to charity. Why is that so hard to imagine? Zalatix Feb 2012 #83

Uhm, okay, I'll say it. Donating it would have removed it as permanently and effectively as shooting riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #84

He's sending a message that shooting a laptop is the proper response. Zalatix Feb 2012 #86

My neighbor shoots shit. Dishwashers, microwaves, any electrical appliance that's "dying" riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #87

I'll judge, yes indeed. Zalatix Feb 2012 #93

Again, you don't know any details. Neither do I. Its youtube, designed for drama riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #95

Who cares what's meaningful to teens. We're supposed to act like adults. Zalatix Feb 2012 #97

The definition of "mature example" is also up for debate. riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #98

Ignore? Hardly. Zalatix Feb 2012 #99

I'm sorry but that is not up for debate. MattBaggins Feb 2012 #193

I've said in other places that I don't think we have enough info to judge. I've also told my story riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #207

apples and oranges MattBaggins Feb 2012 #209

It wasn't just drug equipment. At all. riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #211

We don't have enough info for the families entire situation MattBaggins Feb 2012 #218

"Who cares what's meaningful to teens." PavePusher Feb 2012 #166

Doesn't mean we have to behave like them and go shoot stuff up to "teach them a lesson". Zalatix Feb 2012 #176

Your kids get to "go shoot stuff up"? PavePusher Feb 2012 #183

Hardy har har. Shooting up a laptop is CHILDISH behavior. Zalatix Feb 2012 #192

I think they should turn him in to Child Protective Services. May as well get a record on him.... cbdo2007 Feb 2012 #88

He'll get what's coming to him, in any of the many forms it can happen. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #90

Forget the gun - he's disrespectful of her privacy Matariki Feb 2012 #91

Until he is no longer responsible for her Kellerfeller Feb 2012 #137

thankyou leftyohiolib Feb 2012 #172

You sure that is how it works? MattBaggins Feb 2012 #194

theyre your kids, teach them what ever you want leftyohiolib Feb 2012 #219

If he had thrown it in the drive way Fla_Democrat Feb 2012 #94

Would you be just as angry if he had spanked her? moriah Feb 2012 #96

I don't think the guy cooled off enough to rationally think about the consequences of his actions Hippo_Tron Feb 2012 #103

Actually, yes. moriah Feb 2012 #127

I agree! and to hack into her account Tumbulu Feb 2012 #100

Anybody remember when Alec Baldwin left that nasty voicemail on his daughter's phone... Hippo_Tron Feb 2012 #101

Is this the meaningless distraction du jour? Nostradammit Feb 2012 #104

Yup. n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #167

Agreed. One could extropolate this this to our govt's responses to other countries. grahamhgreen Feb 2012 #108

Just another secondvariety Feb 2012 #115

Any parent that gets that upset boston bean Feb 2012 #116

IT IS HER FATHER!! ohnoimscared Feb 2012 #119

Josh Powell WAS A FATHER too ... TBF Feb 2012 #155

Let's take it a step further Suji to Seoul Feb 2012 #121

Blow things out of proportion much? MattBaggins Feb 2012 #195

He bought it. Let him do it. . .in fact, the little twit's mother also said to do it. Suji to Seoul Feb 2012 #200

A child you don't even know MattBaggins Feb 2012 #201

OP goes over the top, too, threatening taking away children for property destruction Land Shark Feb 2012 #125

How nice that he shot her laptop and not, say, her cat. Or her gerbil. Or her dinner meat. aquart Feb 2012 #126

She had her Facebook privacy settings set so only friends could read her page obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #128

What the daughter did is kind of different that a diary. ohnoimscared Feb 2012 #129

No, he didn't hack her FB account - lynne Feb 2012 #215

Is that what this is about? I read this thread after it persisted as a "greatest"... Scuba Feb 2012 #131

Excellent post. K&R nt TBF Feb 2012 #133

Parenting? Really? chervilant Feb 2012 #135

I think theWraith agrees with you. nt TBF Feb 2012 #141

Of course, chervilant Feb 2012 #149

You do know that the OP agrees with you, right? Rex Feb 2012 #145

Yes, I am well aware... chervilant Feb 2012 #157

Ah I C Rex Feb 2012 #230

Well put and badly in need of saying. Thanks - n/t coalition_unwilling Feb 2012 #181

I wholeheartedly agree with you varelse Feb 2012 #147

is there a link or anything? inna Feb 2012 #152

Here you go. riderinthestorm Feb 2012 #153

lol, thanks! inna Feb 2012 #156

Please don't waste your time on that "discussion." HuckleB Feb 2012 #189

'No actual children were harmed or threatened in the making of this moral hysteria.' n/t PavePusher Feb 2012 #169

No actual children were actually parented by the making of this attention-seeking youtube video. -nt HuckleB Feb 2012 #186

What about the words, "This is not a toy gun." ? randome Feb 2012 #170

For once, Wraith, you and I are in complete agreement 100%. white_wolf Feb 2012 #171

+1,000,000,000,000 HuckleB Feb 2012 #187

Ditto and yes. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #191

It occurs to me that maybe the girl's irresponsible, immature, disrespectful behavior rocktivity Feb 2012 #173

Yup. HuckleB Feb 2012 #185

This, exactly. TheWraith Feb 2012 #198

Oh.....blah, blah, blah, fucking blah. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2012 #177

Nope, it doesn't. Here is a visual aid that I should have posted this morning instead of EFerrari Feb 2012 #188

+1,000,000,000,000 HuckleB Feb 2012 #190

Thank you SO MUCH for posting that. redqueen Feb 2012 #216

Do you want to put it up, redqueen? EFerrari Feb 2012 #220

The dufus clearly sought attention for himself. HuckleB Feb 2012 #184

The lazy child was not threatened. former9thward Feb 2012 #206

That was definitely not an action that a calm and rational person would take Progression Feb 2012 #208

Would you feel the same had he thrown the laptop in the river? lynne Feb 2012 #212

When you destroy property in order to control a family member, that is domestic violence. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #221

I agree...knr joeybee12 Feb 2012 #213

I agree, it is appalling that people could rationalize his actions. nt redqueen Feb 2012 #214

I agree with you lunatica Feb 2012 #227