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Just Saying

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61. You're all welcome.

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:23 PM

Jun 2013

I just came across this myself. Best part is a lot of it is from Z's mouth!

Anyone in the legal field know if any of his interviews are admissible in court?

When I see this, I think physical evidence (clothes, marks on bodies) doesn't jibe with Z's story at all.

I believe Z tried to stop Trayvon (because the assholes always get away as he told dispatch) and a fight broke out. Injuries were probably from the tussle but Z was bigger (heavier) and armed. It was Trayvon who was defending himself.

The real irony here is that if the police had showed up in my scenario before the murder, it is Zimmerman who would have probably been hauled off for assault and kidnapping. (Holding someone against their will is kidnapping.)

I'm all for a fair trial, but don't get all the Z defenders He killed a child just walking down the street. Is this some lame attempt to justify his having a gun and using it?

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Fox News: Trayvon Would Be Alive If He Didn�t Have Street Attitude [View all] pokerfan Jun 2013 OP

and zimmerman is a hideous piece of shit fucked up thug with a record of violence against others JI7 Jun 2013 #1

You absolutely described Zimmerman perfectly! n/t marew Jun 2013 #37

A guy who declared himself judge, jury, and executioner. Initech Jun 2013 #41

And how does that get Zimmerman off the hook? What was George's attitude sinkingfeeling Jun 2013 #2

Code speak PD Turk Jun 2013 #3

Sadly a few DUers agree with Fox's perspective on this story.... Blue_Tires Jun 2013 #7

I know PD Turk Jun 2013 #9

oh yeah... a few... Ohio Joe Jun 2013 #32

Trayvon would be alive if Zimmerman had done what the 911 dispatcher told him to do. nt nyquil_man Jun 2013 #4

YES. Demoiselle Jun 2013 #17

fox playing to their audience. Shameful. A$$hole racist NRA & fox and repub./libertarian soundbytes. graham4anything Jun 2013 #5

Yep pokerfan Jun 2013 #10

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Jun 2013 #6

I had no idea iced tea and Skittles were so dangerous. Arkana Jun 2013 #8

Fox News: Trayvon �Could Have Killed� Zimmerman With Iced Tea And Skittles pokerfan Jun 2013 #11

Trayvon Martin is now apparently Richard B. Riddick? Scootaloo Jun 2013 #77

Yeah, and it was an aluminum can, not a bottle pokerfan Jun 2013 #78

Who needs fox news when you have DU'ers doing it for free? Scootaloo Jun 2013 #80

After a long day blowing up frogs, Bush walked the streets with swagger and attitude. blm Jun 2013 #12

There were photos in an earlier thread of jurors looking a Zimmerman as he came in. They monmouth3 Jun 2013 #13

Fox news should be on trial olddots Jun 2013 #14

If he would have had a "street attitude".... Deuce Jun 2013 #15

are you sure he was an innocent teenager? hfojvt Jun 2013 #16

You're right. He knew his place. He should have stayed in it. ieoeja Jun 2013 #21

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #38

But that didn't happen at all and you know it. Rex Jun 2013 #43

Try it this way. When Zimmy grabbed Tray and threw him down, Tray had no right to fight back? uppityperson Jun 2013 #45

Nice story, bro, but it doesn't have anything to do with the fact that Zimmerman shot and killed yardwork Jun 2013 #54

WTF are talking about? trublu992 Jun 2013 #23

I can only assume they forgot the sarcasm tag. Rex Jun 2013 #26

based on that poster's history it was not sarcasm JI7 Jun 2013 #47

Nope. Not at all Number23 Jun 2013 #53

are you being the change you want to see in the world? hfojvt Jun 2013 #30

You wrote something very true here. Except you apply it only to 1 person uppityperson Jun 2013 #46

Very astute observation. Rex Jun 2013 #49

I imagine it's also just as valid to believe that you may indeed believe he "deserved it."... LanternWaste Jun 2013 #100

The poster sounds like Zimmerman, actually. yardwork Jun 2013 #56

Interesting point of view. Rex Jun 2013 #25

Martin did have a cut on his hand. Captain Stern Jun 2013 #28

Some info on the marks Just Saying Jun 2013 #36

Thank you, there is no PROOF that Martin assaulted Zimmerman Rex Jun 2013 #44

Whoah, thank you for that link. I hadn't read that. No blood, no dna, no grass stains uppityperson Jun 2013 #51

Bookmarked. Thank you. yardwork Jun 2013 #58

You're all welcome. Just Saying Jun 2013 #61

The only way to understand Zimmerman's actions and the beliefs of his defenders yardwork Jun 2013 #72

Thanks for the post. Captain Stern Jun 2013 #63

Not sure what you're talking about. Just Saying Jun 2013 #65

That's the report I'm referencing. Captain Stern Jun 2013 #66

No idea. Just Saying Jun 2013 #67

I'm specifically curious about stains A & D. Captain Stern Jun 2013 #69

As far as I can tell there is nothing in the report saying Just Saying Jun 2013 #70

I just loved the part where zimmerman is holding martin FACE DOWN in the grass as martin niyad Jun 2013 #110

It was not a cut from a hit, good try though uponit7771 Jun 2013 #50

huh did I read that right? You think Mr. Martin brought his death on ? sad-cafe Jun 2013 #35

Trayvon had the option to run home? Nine Jun 2013 #39

How do you know he broke zmans nose? Cause ZMan said so?! Regards uponit7771 Jun 2013 #48

You seem to know a lot about it. Were you there? yardwork Jun 2013 #52

Bullshit. Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2013 #71

Good god you're pathetic, Moses2SandyKoufax Jun 2013 #73

Wow Scootaloo Jun 2013 #79

George was running to the grocery store. Just Saying Jun 2013 #109

The cops told Zimmerman to BACK OFF. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #91

Are you referring to the dispatcher? Pelican Jun 2013 #95

A reasonable person would do what the dispatcher/police officer/whoever says. AngryOldDem Jun 2013 #108

He'd be alive if George didn't have a gun and the itch to hunt someone down NightWatcher Jun 2013 #18

Nothing more street than Skittles dog lame54 Jun 2013 #19

SO according to Foxnews Rex Jun 2013 #20

Women are told XemaSab Jun 2013 #22

He'd be alive if he were white LittleBlue Jun 2013 #24

Yeah, he'd also be alive if Zimmerman were not a bigot and gun toter. Hoyt Jun 2013 #27

And the Soviet Union would be around Turbineguy Jun 2013 #29

Fox, imo, would not still have a lesson to broadcast were a requirement to operate in the public indepat Jun 2013 #31

Openly racist bullshit... I am not one bit surprised fox would do this Ohio Joe Jun 2013 #33

Disgusting. ljm2002 Jun 2013 #34

No. Vigilantes such as Zimmerman need to feel the fiercest effects of justice. Dawson Leery Jun 2013 #40

The Fox Opinion Channel: the media arm of the KKK since 1997! Initech Jun 2013 #42

Thousands more Americans would be alive if we didn't have Fox FiveGoodMen Jun 2013 #55

One thing that gets me is all this talk about Treyvon being suspected of being a burglar,... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #57

If I caught someone stealing my computer, I'd not kill them. uppityperson Jun 2013 #59

It's the whole Conservative obsession with property over people. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #62

Yup and gun-action hero fetishism. Dash87 Jun 2013 #93

While it has nothing to do with the story... Pelican Jun 2013 #75

There is a difference between someone defending themselves,... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #83

I'm sure there's context there... Pelican Jun 2013 #84

In this case? Someone believing they were the neighborhood watch. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #86

Again... Pelican Jun 2013 #87

Take your pick,...when he jumped out of his vehicle... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #88

Ahh.. I see... Pelican Jun 2013 #89

We were talking "attitude". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #92

Right... in your imagination... Pelican Jun 2013 #94

Ever serve on a jury? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #96

No but any lawyer... Pelican Jun 2013 #98

Don't you know the job of a jury is often to determine the state of mind? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #99

Thern you believe 'motive' is never argued in court? LanternWaste Jun 2013 #107

This subthread starts about burglary and death penalty so it does follow that. Keep up, please. uppityperson Jun 2013 #97

Type slower and mouth the words as you go .. Pelican Jun 2013 #103

Why do you do that? uppityperson Jun 2013 #104

It's high quality insight like that... Pelican Jun 2013 #105

High quality insight like "Type slower and mouth the words as you go .."? Indeed. uppityperson Jun 2013 #106

You know the "prelude" of American History X? Scootaloo Jun 2013 #81

I can not tell you .. how much AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #60

WTF does iced tea and candy bring to mind? etherealtruth Jun 2013 #64

George Zimmerman had a gun. Brigid Jun 2013 #68

That may be enough for you.. Pelican Jun 2013 #76

did he use his "dehumanizing stare" powers, too? MisterP Jun 2013 #74

he might have just said "if he hadn't been such a N*****" arely staircase Jun 2013 #82

Jesus duuser5822 Jun 2013 #85

Capital murder case. The Accused? Trayvon Martin, the dead black man. freshwest Jun 2013 #90

what pray tell was the right attitude? Phlem Jun 2013 #101

Yeah, how dare he be uppity. WeekendWarrior Jun 2013 #102