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Thinkingabout

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32. He is not a hero, I was aware the data was being collected. He is a thief for stealing information
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 07:51 PM
Jun 2013

and delivering it to someone who did not have security clearance. He was employed with a code of ethics and he has broken the code and there will be consequences for him. The FISA court has been looking and granting the warrants to obtain the phone call records. If further wiretapping was required another warrant was needed to wiretap. We must be aware if we uses services like communications, email, and internet services it can be subject to recording the information thru FISA courts or even in lower courts related to criminal acts. As far as credit card uses, again most are completed through communications and can be recorded. There are cameras being installed in many cities, businesses and homes. There are many cell phone with video capable of recording your activities if you are in public.

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Why Edward Snowden Is a Hero [View all] Catherina Jun 2013 OP
Does the writer jehop61 Jun 2013 #1
Evidently. Or just doesn't mind lying. nt kelliekat44 Jun 2013 #4
The issue is sucking up all digital and phone communications usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #12
You should educate yourself. The data is phone numbers. There is no fucking communication. bluestate10 Jun 2013 #43
not according to the recent revelations usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #44
Hasn't most of this been debunked? JaneyVee Jun 2013 #2
Nothing is ever debunked. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #6
Legal, but unethical. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #11
Maybe. They took threats to national security pretty seriously. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #14
The cult of national security demands absolute obedience. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #17
There was, like, this court order. MineralMan Jun 2013 #3
Sucking up all digital & phone comm violates the 4th admendment usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #13
Actually, SCOTUS ruled it legal, although it may be unethical. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #18
Not True - In fact every-time this issue is brought before the courts it gets thrown out usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #20
Here's the case legal scholars point to: JaneyVee Jun 2013 #21
lol - from 1979, about 1 persons phone, please do not waste peoples time with this usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #22
You can LOL all you want. But you're looking at the legal scholar definition of why metadata JaneyVee Jun 2013 #23
this is about more than just meta data, this is about harvesting and storing ALL comm usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #24
SCOTUS will decide. MineralMan Jun 2013 #25
Well let's hope so, so far they have vigorously avoided the question but Sonwden also revealed names usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #27
I will let you know what I think MineralMan Jun 2013 #30
You can't answer a straight forward question? Good to know. usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #31
He didn't confirm anything. He alleged something then disappeared. randome Jun 2013 #5
Apparently... OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #7
I think I saw him on the Dulles C train with Elvis. HipChick Jun 2013 #9
And why he's not (Josh Marshall) frazzled Jun 2013 #8
That is an excellent piece. randome Jun 2013 #28
Yeah, it reflected my feelings pretty well frazzled Jun 2013 #33
Meh. Not a hero, not a villian n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #10
A hero would've taken the info to a friendly Congressman's office NightWatcher Jun 2013 #15
Snowden exposed the warmongers who spy on America for what they are. Octafish Jun 2013 #16
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #19
Definitely...but the Celebrity DU'er Crowd thinks he's been Discredited KoKo Jun 2013 #26
Edward Snowden ProSense Jun 2013 #29
Is Edward Snowden A Traitor? - If He Is, So Was Daniel Ellsberg. - Slate usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #34
He is not a hero, I was aware the data was being collected. He is a thief for stealing information Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #32
Kick !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #35
He's a hero, despite the quislings' best efforts to delegitamize him. -nt- b.durruti Jun 2013 #36
You're too late, he's already been found to be a liar, a traitor, and a fugitive on the run. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #37
Whatever he is, he started a conversation that needs to be had. Autumn Jun 2013 #38
I think it takes a hero to stand up against a trillion dollar machine that protects capital, kills Catherina Jun 2013 #39
You are so right on that. I read that he has more to release Autumn Jun 2013 #40
Me too. Greenwald already said he can't release it all Catherina Jun 2013 #42
A person makes vague allusions to abuses, without giving one example of abuse. bluestate10 Jun 2013 #41
He's not, he's a traitor. RB TexLa Jun 2013 #45
A hero to the CATO Institute, sure. ucrdem Jun 2013 #46
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