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Luminous Animal

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58. He made no claims about the slides. He reported precisely what they said with no personal viewpoint

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 08:51 PM

Jun 2013

expressed whatsoever:

There was zero lying. It was straightforward reporting from source documents. If there is a lie in there, take it up with the NSA.

This information is right in the articles headline:

• Top-secret Prism program claims direct access to servers of firms including Google, Apple and Facebook
• Companies deny any knowledge of program in operation since 2007

From the article: (emphasis mine)

The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian.

The document claims "collection directly from the servers" of major US service providers. the presentation claims the program is run with the assistance of the companies, all those who responded to a Guardian request for comment on Thursday denied knowledge of any such program.

Although the presentation claims the program is run with the assistance of the companies, all those who responded to a Guardian request for comment on Thursday denied knowledge of any such program.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

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Those who have Serious Problems with Glenn Greenwald..Is it Him or His Reporting? [View all] KoKo Jun 2013 OP

it's not about Greenwald Enrique Jun 2013 #1

pppfffffffttttt VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #2

You forgot the smiley to go with it.. Fumesucker Jun 2013 #4

No, Greenwald was slobbering over Ron Paul back in 2007 geek tragedy Jun 2013 #12

and no one here cared Enrique Jun 2013 #23

He was a puny blogger back then, no? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #35

Nobody cared about Glenn Greenwald period back then--very few hits. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #40

I think he was with FireDogLake at that time Whisp Jun 2013 #46

He's never been with Fire Dog Lake. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #49

He was on FDL's payroll. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #69

Um no. That was a PAC started by Hamsher and Greenwald. The PAC paid them. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #74

Bzzzzz. Wrong answer. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #75

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jun 2013 #38

Ron Paul is right about some issues. He's also a foul racist enabling nutjob. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #39

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Greenwald was outspoken in denouncing geek tragedy Jun 2013 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jun 2013 #70

I quoted directly. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #71

Yes, all the criticisms Kelvin Mace Jun 2013 #77

His reporting is often very sloppy and that is true in this case. pnwmom Jun 2013 #3

This... SidDithers Jun 2013 #14

+1000 baldguy Jun 2013 #15

I've heard this a couple time here and haven't seen what it is about. Whisp Jun 2013 #48

This is one example of his overblown "reporting." pnwmom Jun 2013 #50

thanks for that link and quote. yep, wee bit over the top. Whisp Jun 2013 #54

He made no claims about the slides. He reported precisely what they said with no personal viewpoint Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #58

Here is a classic DU Greenwald bashing thread chock full of insights Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #5

Not a Greenwald fan, but I feel like taking a shower after reading that post geek tragedy Jun 2013 #9

It was hosted happily in GD for nearly a week, why? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #10

Eh, when he started promoting Ron Paul that was enough for me to dismiss him geek tragedy Jun 2013 #13

I stopped reading him when he supported the Iraq war, DU brings him up constantly Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #20

I linked to a few examples upthread. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #24

That counts as promotion in my book. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #28

Nice thing about quoting Sullivan is that if you change your mind you can geek tragedy Jun 2013 #31

He wasn't writing when he supported the Iraq war. Please read this. I'd really appreciated it. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #51

I had a melt down when that post was allowed to stand and had a melt down in Meta.. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #52

No surprise there. William769 Jun 2013 #22

To be fair that is a golden oldie, but that thread changed the way I think of DU. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #25

General rule is that if it's possible to be an asshole on a given subject, geek tragedy Jun 2013 #30

Be sure to check out the recommends on that thread. QC Jun 2013 #26

Greenwald is an opinion writer, not a reporter. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #6

^ I am of this opinion as well^ Raine1967 Jun 2013 #32

He comes across as wanting to be 'right'. randome Jun 2013 #7

He has integrity noise Jun 2013 #8

He's a Paulite/Libertarian. He hates both the Dems and the Rethugs. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #16

He is neither... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #56

Then why did he take money from the Cato Institute for his white paper? And why pnwmom Jun 2013 #63

He took money for the precise reason he said. To write a paper about drug Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #68

Deliberately printing falsehoods ≠ integrity baldguy Jun 2013 #17

+1 Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #57

Secret Blackwater Contractors Surveying all of us and Small Business... KoKo Jun 2013 #11

Look who "progressives" are making common cause with: ucrdem Jun 2013 #18

So he's a Paulite, libertarian, that explains flamingdem Jun 2013 #19

He is neither a Paulite or a libertarian. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #55

He left out his flamingdem Jun 2013 #61

I'll be perfectly honest olddots Jun 2013 #21

If Greenwald's reporting is inaccurate, then show exactly where & how that is true. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #27

I know...many of us ask what IS IT ABOUT GREENWALD? Reporting or Hate of Him? KoKo Jun 2013 #36

Yes. blue neen Jun 2013 #29

He's a troublemaker who doesn't toe the party line. We need more like him. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #33

He does the bidding of the Koch Brothers. Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #60

But, does he have a girlfriend in Hawaii? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #62

Boiled down to it's very essence...you. Ikonoklast Jun 2013 #64

Not really. I never voted for a surveillance state. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #67

I'll desnark for a moment. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #34

What OilemFirchen said, especially the Skidmore Jun 2013 #41

I guess partly what others have said - too much opinion, not enough journalism. nomorenomore08 Jun 2013 #37

Greenwald is now more of a Left Anarchist than Right Libertarian FarCenter Jun 2013 #42

It's about not worshipping Obama. DesMoinesDem Jun 2013 #43

I feel the same way about him as I did eissa Jun 2013 #44

I've never had a problem with Glenn Greenwald, Blue_In_AK Jun 2013 #45

I have never like this guy. Long before all this secret stuff came out because he is never happy southernyankeebelle Jun 2013 #53

Both. I consider them inseparable. Chan790 Jun 2013 #59

He speaks truth to power, which makes many uncomfortable -nt- b.durruti Jun 2013 #66

He's abrasive, confrontational, always looks tired from overwork.... I like that. reformist2 Jun 2013 #72

All he needs to do is write a few columns about how handsome Barack Obama is. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #73

It's because he is gay. The Link Jun 2013 #76

I dislike him because of your post. jeff47 Jun 2013 #78