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stupidicus

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12. I completely agree.
Tue Jun 11, 2013, 10:31 PM
Jun 2013

as I've noted here as well, all the Snowden stuff is irrelevant and just a distraction from the issues that matter and should be discussed.

Your first question I'd respond with the ability to investigate and track actual suspects. The last two I think are related. The reasons why are many and varied, but if they have a common denominator, at least in the short term, I'd say it's the fear on the part of the monied interests running this country in the looming social unrest coming from the right and left for different reasons -- a perfect storm of sorts. And in the longer term/decades to come, there is likely gonna be non-ideological causes due to global warming, once food and fresh water shortages create conflicts here and abroad.

The subject we've broached about control without the need for blatant punishment as the motivator, won't last when things like hardship and survival on the scale I think we'll inevitably be seeing are added to the mix. Call me silly, but I think compliance will melt away like the arctic sea ice will soon begin to, in its entirety. It can only forestall the chaos they are hoping this will help manage. They may be a little off timewise with their predictions http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2004/feb/22/usnews.theobserver, but I think this is just part of the preparatory work/foundation for harsher means of control that will be required in the future.

I've long seen the "war on terror" as little more than pretext to hide a lotta things they'd like to keep secret and the populace ignorant about. It's unfathomable to me that it still gets more notice, time, and investments than something like AGW that dwarfs it threatwise, and partcularly given that the cost of ending most of the terrorism threat is simply to mind our own business, and to abandon the empire we can't afford.

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If you don't read another thing on DU today, folks, you should read this. Melinda Jun 2013 #1
the commodification of the security state like everything else designed to strip cash from people Agony Jun 2013 #2
I made a "Panopticon" video Generic Other Jun 2013 #3
I wished on a shooting star...it was a satellite.... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #4
Chilling Generic Other Jun 2013 #6
We're now in the Anthropocene Era... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #7
Drake and Binney noise Jun 2013 #5
Thank you for bring that to my attention... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #8
kickeroo frylock Jun 2013 #9
Does it matter stupidicus Jun 2013 #10
Point taken, Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #11
I completely agree. stupidicus Jun 2013 #12
Your answer raises an important question: What is the behavior that makes one a suspect? reusrename Jun 2013 #24
good point stupidicus Jun 2013 #25
There's such an ugliness at the core of this, the authoritarianism, the chilling of speech, suffragette Jun 2013 #13
+1 woo me with science Jun 2013 #14
The more the 1% screws the 99%, the more paranoid the 1% becomes... Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #15
Exactly. I keep thinking of HBGary, when they went after Wikileaks and liberal groups suffragette Jun 2013 #16
A rose by any other name, would smell as sweet. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #17
Excellent and thought provoking post. Thank you. nt UtahLib Jun 2013 #18
Google for Tyrants is right! This is an incredibly scary tool! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #19
"Just remember: before the dust settles, all is not always what it seems." Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #20
Sunday Morning Kick Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #21
"Only last month, the Navy awarded Booz Allen, suffragette Jun 2013 #22
Impossible now for all this to stay undercover. And I'm not convinced they want it secret. Junkdrawer Jun 2013 #23
KICK! Rex Jul 2013 #26
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