So, how will THIS SCOTUS rule on the issue at hand? If there are lawsuits, it will end with SCOTUS

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7. I'm optimistic about the ACLU suit.

I seem to recall that they or others tried to object to something like this before and got poured out on the catch-22 ground that they couldn't show they'd actually been spied on (the catch-22 being that they would have needed a way to compel the government to open its records in order to show that they'd been spied on, but the court wasn't going to order that because of national security concerns).

This time, it seems nearly certain that the ACLU's info was scooped up along with others, since I understand it's a customer of I think Verizon, which I think was one of the companies involved (feel free to correct me if needed). This means the ACLU will have standing.

I'm no Constitutional lawyer, but if the kind of indiscriminate, long-term collection of info that's been going on isn't a violation of the Fourth Amendment, I can't imagine what is.

UPDATE: Yeah, details here, posted more or less while I was posting this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022997482