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longship

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27. I can see that you've never had to get a secret clearance before.

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 11:19 PM

Jun 2013

It's not like getting hired at Microsoft, or Starbucks, or WalMart.

None of those send FBI to check out your application, even going back more than a decade to your teen age years.

Big fucking difference when you are going to be actually working on stuff that is not just proprietary, but if you divulge it ever you go to fucking prison for a very long time.

No matter what Bill Gates thinks of his wealthy but college drop-out self, even he doesn't have that power. When you have a secret clearance you abide or you could go to prison. It's that simple.

It is a big fucking difference. I highly suspect that Snowden may soon understand the extent of that difference.

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