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Douglas Carpenter

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98. just your basic right-wing defense of the surveillance state which only during the last few days

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 10:37 AM

Jun 2013

has become your basic moderate Democrat defense of the surveillance state - Along with another one of hundreds and hundreds of pieces "spontaneously" popping up everywhere telling us that Snowden is a loner and a loser.

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My occasional debate opponent, Rachel Marsden, says she has exclusive info re: Snowden [View all] stevenleser Jun 2013 OP

can we make guesses? Whisp Jun 2013 #1

I hope it isn't that he wasn't good neighbor. morningfog Jun 2013 #2

She has a lot of friends globally in the military, diplomatic and intelligence communities and stevenleser Jun 2013 #4

a right wing nut who is a apologist for torture? Monkie Jun 2013 #28

Your attempt to impute an emotion to me on this is quite revealing. stevenleser Jun 2013 #29

Your attempt to smear Steve has failed miserably. William769 Jun 2013 #67

You're getting pretty obnoxious leftynyc Jun 2013 #70

Marsden's... interesting. Recursion Jun 2013 #8

yes the serial stalking and false rape accusations that got a person fired are "interesting" Monkie Jun 2013 #42

His religious beliefs. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #54

He's Romney's nephew? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #56

he's Greenwald's other brother Glen? Whisp Jun 2013 #57

He's Greenwald's significant other Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #60

There's another thread here where Glen and Snowden are talking on twitter. Whisp Jun 2013 #64

'Narrative is about to change' sounds like not good news for Snowden. randome Jun 2013 #3

I believe it will be on the Trib website at that time. She usually links articles on Facebook stevenleser Jun 2013 #5

waiting... flamingdem Jun 2013 #6

There is certainly a crazy, half-assed attempt to destroy Snowden... CoffeeCat Jun 2013 #7

Well-said. +1 nt Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #10

Right now, there's 'Snowden is a hero' marketing blitz railsback Jun 2013 #11

anyone who thinks the Iraq war was somehow 'noble' has got to have some evil in him. Whisp Jun 2013 #12

His background and personal opinions don't concern me if morningfog Jun 2013 #14

we will see in the next few days, or earlier, what kind of character he really has. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #16

His character doesn't matter. morningfog Jun 2013 #17

what matters is Whisp Jun 2013 #18

That matters not at all. morningfog Jun 2013 #19

so even if a Koch bro put up some cash for him to do this extra creamy scandal Whisp Jun 2013 #21

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now you just made a good funny. Whisp Jun 2013 #53

This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jun 2013 #79

right, like Obama hasn't been called the most disgusting names here Whisp Jun 2013 #81

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sure it is. everything Snowden is related to bad Obama and his secret weapons. Whisp Jun 2013 #93

That is some Obama victim chip on your shoulder. morningfog Jun 2013 #97

Everything is all about Obama with that poster. morningfog Jun 2013 #99

HIS background IS the real story! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #52

Does that also apply to Hillary and the others who signed on to IWR? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #73

yes. Hillary for sure yes. Whisp Jun 2013 #75

No, we are not that dumb. Nothing is 'destroying' Snowden other than his own actions. randome Jun 2013 #13

But, what does that have to do with NSA data-mining? morningfog Jun 2013 #15

Other than a lack of evidence this is being done outside the NSA's rules, nothing. randome Jun 2013 #20

Again, what does Snowden's hiding have to do with that? morningfog Jun 2013 #22

All we have to go on so far is Snowden's word. randome Jun 2013 #23

Bingo. Historic NY Jun 2013 #24

K&R but I think she should do it faster...I think the narrative is already changing. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #9

kick Whisp Jun 2013 #25

Rachel Marsden? Well, there's an interesting personality... SidDithers Jun 2013 #26

In general, people in politics and/or media are very engaging off camera. stevenleser Jun 2013 #27

Kick for world changing news in 6 minutes cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #30

Steve? Don't toy with our emotions. randome Jun 2013 #31

Hope Rachel Mardon believes in being on time! Whisp Jun 2013 #32

Just found this in townhall maddezmom Jun 2013 #33

Not quite as advertised, is it? randome Jun 2013 #35

Yeah, not much news there maddezmom Jun 2013 #36

maybe it was that girlfriend/spy story thing that was the news? Whisp Jun 2013 #39

yep, they (the collective media) are cutting him loose. Snowden story is over. Whisp Jun 2013 #38

+100! zappaman Jun 2013 #41

Ho-hum. This is what will "change things?" MineralMan Jun 2013 #43

Smearing the girlfriend...that's just great. dkf Jun 2013 #45

What a smug personality this Marsden is Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #46

I knew it! Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #55

Looks like that's it. Reading it now. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #59

Do you think that's all it is? muriel_volestrangler Jun 2013 #94

I think that's it. stevenleser Jun 2013 #95

this is exclusive info ? I don't see it yet nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #78

just your basic right-wing defense of the surveillance state which only during the last few days Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #98

He chews with his mouth open, has unpaid parking tickets and high cholesterol? Myrina Jun 2013 #34

No wait, he picks his scabs! Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #47

Still waiting ... n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #37

see reply 33, there is a link there. Whisp Jun 2013 #40

I hope that lame hit piece is not what Ms. Marsden was referring to. Laelth Jun 2013 #44

Just read it Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #48

Hey, but from that, his girlfriend "promoted a dance show in which she performs as a spy" suffragette Jun 2013 #49

the thing about Russia maybe taking him is all I see so far: steve2470 Jun 2013 #50

LOL, Russia would just love to have him. DevonRex Jun 2013 #74

If Russia has him, then only Sarah Palin will see him! n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #83

LOL!! NT DevonRex Jun 2013 #88

Why promote a right wing hack on DU? Hay to be made for all I guess. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #58

Is 'Chicago time' measured in 'business hours'? randome Jun 2013 #61

LOL Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #63

This is an example of your occasional opponent's work. Just so people can see. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #62

There is a reason she is my opponent. We disagree a lot. nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #65

But I don't know your work with her, so all I see is this, which is promotion of her Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #71

I can see you haven't thought this through so I am going to help you stevenleser Jun 2013 #76

Well said. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #80

If that's how you see it, you might want to consider the way you present the material Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #82

You might want to consider how you present your material as well. Whisp Jun 2013 #85

That's ridiculous. Presenting someone as a political opponent and explaining I have no idea what she stevenleser Jun 2013 #86

Worry not, Steve. The vast majority of us hold you in esteem. randome Jun 2013 #87

She's a hateful person. Thanks for bringing her into my day, Steve. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #89

You know, I own one of the world's smallest violins just for these occasions. stevenleser Jun 2013 #91

But have you broken a ballerina's heart lately? Marrah_G Jun 2013 #100

Yeah, exactly. stevenleser Jun 2013 #101

Breaking: Pole Dancing Girlfriend Says Snowden MineralMan Jun 2013 #66

Greenwald didn't tease his reporting. He reported it. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #68

I guess I dont see it like you do. If any pundit I know on FB made the claim she did, I would have stevenleser Jun 2013 #69

Oh, I don't mean it's some crime for you to report it DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #72

I don't feel that way. See my #76 above nt stevenleser Jun 2013 #77

But that post is just nonsense. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #84

So it's 3:41 Chicago time. Did she ever make her big announcement? Or was this it: pnwmom Jun 2013 #90

That was a hell of an excluive... Zip. Nada. Lame. tridim Jun 2013 #96