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flamingdem

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74. All about undermining Obama?

Wed Jun 12, 2013, 04:39 PM

Jun 2013

What is the theory? What does the Carlyle Group get out of this -

I can't see the Guardian being quite that evil..

Glen Greenwald yes, total opportunist and hater

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So Snowden shows up in Hong Kong just when Obama is meeting with the Chinese [View all] pnwmom Jun 2013 OP

Does this guy even know what he's saying? flamingdem Jun 2013 #1

Im beginning to think he took that job... bunnies Jun 2013 #2

yep. and he got some help, and not Greenwald's, for the access. Whisp Jun 2013 #24

Totally. bunnies Jun 2013 #30

Of course he did....he went to work there AFTER he talked to Greenwald in January VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #56

thanks. I didnt know that little tidbit. bunnies Jun 2013 #76

ty. That was the bit I couldn't recall. How the timing worked so oddly. Plus Whisp Jun 2013 #116

Nah the guy had enough work history to get the job... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #117

I say that because his fast tracking looks suspicious. Whisp Jun 2013 #118

Are we still at war with EastAsia? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #3

East Asia isn't a precise term. pnwmom Jun 2013 #4

Are we still at war with Germany..we spy on them too? How about the American people? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #5

Yes, Oceania has always been at war with EastAsia MNBrewer Jun 2013 #54

Newsflash: China is not our friend and never will be. Hekate Jun 2013 #64

he works for the chinese arely staircase Jun 2013 #6

That's what I'm wondering. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #9

Oh, brother. Do you have some proof, or is that just more tinfoil hat stuff? Marr Jun 2013 #35

whistleblower, lol arely staircase Jun 2013 #39

he is begging them to let him stay there and he is giving them info on our operations against them arely staircase Jun 2013 #49

So, tinfoil then-- thanks. /nt Marr Jun 2013 #58

I think he works for the Chinese as well... SummerSnow Jun 2013 #77

Is Thomas Drake there too? LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #7

He clearly works for the Chinese. HappyMe Jun 2013 #8

I heard he didn't always chat with neighbors, too-- and sometimes-- Marr Jun 2013 #38

..... HappyMe Jun 2013 #42

Could be, but why did he come forward after getting away with it? apples and oranges Jun 2013 #79

Money and timing. HappyMe Jun 2013 #90

I hate conspiracy theories... Wait Wut Jun 2013 #10

I think you meant while Obama was at "Sunnylands" not in Hong Kong, though. n/t KoKo Jun 2013 #11

Technically, that's true. pnwmom Jun 2013 #12

You realize that Sunnylands is in the United States, right? /nt Marr Jun 2013 #45

No, I assumed it was a joke name for somewhere in China. pnwmom Jun 2013 #73

NPR..Chinese Premier and Entourage Skip "Sunnyland Guest Rooms" for fear of US Spying KoKo Jun 2013 #94

Velly interesting indeed! malaise Jun 2013 #13

Won't stop the cultists here Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #14

+++ Whisp Jun 2013 #27

++++ flamingdem Jun 2013 #31

Won't stop the cultists here who worship this man MNBrewer Jun 2013 #47

I'm quite sure you did Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #50

good cultists are always quite sure MNBrewer Jun 2013 #57

I wouldn't know Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #59

You seem to know quite well, actually MNBrewer Jun 2013 #66

You think? Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #67

No, you tell ME more MNBrewer Jun 2013 #70

Okay Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #80

My first thought Autumn Jun 2013 #81

heh SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #112

They're more like Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #71

Indeed Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #108

Neither a Paulbot nor an Obamabot, be. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #114

Its not.about.Snowden LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #85

+++++ Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #124

Chinese Hacking Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #15

Comic relief, thanks Hekate Jun 2013 #91

Pretty sure it involves Aerows Jun 2013 #96

He's a Paulbot and he thinks he's striking a blow against the Empire (USA) NightWatcher Jun 2013 #16

The Paul connection is important Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #17

Yup. Ordinary Republicans are generally much less obnoxious pnwmom Jun 2013 #19

Exactly! A Paul bumpersticker says "I don't know shit about politics" NightWatcher Jun 2013 #20

Pure BOrG Crap� BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #18

No, I don't believe in the death penalty. pnwmom Jun 2013 #21

WTH does BOrG Crap mean? bunnies Jun 2013 #26

The Borg from Star Trek BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #37

This is really insulting on a democratic site that supports the President and the party. graham4anything Jun 2013 #69

At the end of the day, every single person here is working for the same thing Whisp Jun 2013 #89

I no longer believe that, Whisp, sorry to say Hekate Jun 2013 #97

I didn't make myself clear then, Hekate. Whisp Jun 2013 #100

Thanks Hekate Jun 2013 #101

It is a term used Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #104

Well... bunnies Jun 2013 #125

Exceedingly accurate assessment! You Better Believe It! Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #126

Snowden revealed today to a Chinese newspaper that Skidmore Jun 2013 #32

And the NSA is sharing the data they gather with other countries so they can spy too BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #40

This might be important--that is NOT just a "Chinese Newspaper." MADem Jun 2013 #106

Oh shit! This just gets worse. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #128

It just gets more and more interesting, doesn't it? emulatorloo Jun 2013 #130

People forget that the Bush family is deeply rooted in China going back to the early 70s. blm Jun 2013 #136

working for the chinese is probably not accurate arely staircase Jun 2013 #43

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #46

yes. arely staircase Jun 2013 #52

Yeah, it's kind of strange, isn't it? Marr Jun 2013 #51

What a clever new acronym you felt compelled to invent Hekate Jun 2013 #87

he sure as fuck didn't plan this alone, neither only with Greenwald. Whisp Jun 2013 #22

China has known since 2006 that we spy on them, so it's really too late to say anything about it now DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #23

It's a PR coup to have this happen now, and it will undermine Obama pnwmom Jun 2013 #25

The PR is going to be horribly ugly for the President, in China, in Europe, & maybe at home. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #28

This is the worst aspect of this and can't be a flamingdem Jun 2013 #33

PO met with the Chinese guy in PALM SPRlNGS. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #29

what's the connection flamingdem Jun 2013 #34

Good question. ucrdem Jun 2013 #41

Do you even understand the captions in the photo? BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #48

The Obama caption was EarlG's little joke. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #53

ha! Perfect cartoon flamingdem Jun 2013 #55

It was pretty bad. ucrdem Jun 2013 #60

jeez, this twerp managed to cause this disaster flamingdem Jun 2013 #61

Oh I think we know who's behind this. ucrdem Jun 2013 #65

All about undermining Obama? flamingdem Jun 2013 #74

It's mainly about politics sure. ucrdem Jun 2013 #83

Carlyle Group owns Booz Allen flamingdem Jun 2013 #88

I think they're largely in the business of war. ucrdem Jun 2013 #92

Ah, yes-- a brilliant scheme. They� are truly diabolical... Marr Jun 2013 #84

Admit it, he's attempting to undermine the administration flamingdem Jun 2013 #93

I don't care what he's trying to do. Marr Jun 2013 #134

ARE YOU WORKING FOR THE CHINESE?! Marr Jun 2013 #63

LOL Sorry. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #98

Thank you, you're right. But the point is the same. pnwmom Jun 2013 #109

I called it on Monday: ucrdem Jun 2013 #113

Yes, you did! n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #115

And another made-for-TV scandal takes a dive. ucrdem Jun 2013 #123

Bingo. It worked, too: big setback in Obama's negotiations with Xi ucrdem Jun 2013 #36

Coinkydinks like this are why I waited for more information before crucifying Prez. Obama... Hekate Jun 2013 #44

And yet for waiting to learn facts, we are labeled NSA enablers & Obama cultists. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #102

Oh yeah, I just bow down and worship the NSA every midnight... Hekate Jun 2013 #105

here's my baseless conspiracy theory RainDog Jun 2013 #62

That would not surprise me at all. Laelth Jun 2013 #103

LOL RainDog Jun 2013 #107

Only time will tell, I suppose. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #110

Obama is in Hong Kong? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #68

Hong Kong is part of China, and Obama is in the midst of negotiating pnwmom Jun 2013 #75

Maybe Obama should have come clean then, when he had the chance MNBrewer Jun 2013 #82

No...that was last weekend at Annenberg Estate in Palm Springs, CA.. KoKo Jun 2013 #99

Pics here: ucrdem Jun 2013 #111

Saw this interesting quote.... dont know who penned it SummerSnow Jun 2013 #72

There are no coincidences in politics - FDR bunnies Jun 2013 #86

This is Standard BFEE ops, imo. When Clinton was getting close w/China someone 'bombed' blm Jun 2013 #78

+1 ucrdem Jun 2013 #95

BushInc has a knack for finding and exploiting vulnerable, borderline personalities to blm Jun 2013 #135

Thanks for reminding me about the accidental bombing. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #132

Tried found guilty and soon to be nineteen50 Jun 2013 #119

Yeah, he's going to be droned. Uh-huh. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #121

Sock puppets play personality politics blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #120

He's the one that's made this all about him. He chose not to remain anonymous. pnwmom Jun 2013 #122

Name another leaker who has appeared in his own glossy video emulatorloo Jun 2013 #131

He is a snake, a traitor and a pawn for someone. appleannie1 Jun 2013 #127

There is no question that the intent is to embarrass the Obama Administration. He is no hero to me still_one Jun 2013 #129

There are Times in Our History..when our Presidents ...really NEED to be Embarassed...... KoKo Jun 2013 #133