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In reply to the discussion: [Snowden]...Showed Hong Kong Newspaper Documents Revealing US Hacking Attacks On China (updated 2x) [View all]
AnnieK401
(541 posts)208. What, we hacked China!
I am totally shocked, no doubt they are also.
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[Snowden]...Showed Hong Kong Newspaper Documents Revealing US Hacking Attacks On China (updated 2x) [View all]
ProSense
Jun 2013
OP
This is the Chinese trump card to deal with US pressure on cyber security - he'll be China honored
JackN415
Jun 2013
#113
So you blame Snowden for trying to do something about the unemployment rate???
randome
Jun 2013
#231
His insistence on the story breaking right when Obama was meeting with the new Chinese leader
MADem
Jun 2013
#306
As what the government is doing is legal under the Patriot Act, he was always a leaker, not
Windy
Jun 2013
#229
You can't do that... there is specific criteria under the Whistleblower Protection Act. NT
Windy
Jun 2013
#235
He's in China, seeking the protection of the Chinese government, providing them
geek tragedy
Jun 2013
#272
I see what you're saying--at the end of the day six of one, half dozen of the other.
geek tragedy
Jun 2013
#304
I just mean that China would have kept him at a long distance if he had contacted them.
David__77
Jun 2013
#307
"Snowden has become a cult" You ain't lying. And by the same folks who bray at the moon
Number23
Jun 2013
#228
Are we still gonna call him a hero? Or does this cross the line for folks here?
OregonBlue
Jun 2013
#3
No, he really isn't, though some are desperately trying to make him the story
LondonReign2
Jun 2013
#25
He becomes a major sticking point in the relationship if they shield him
BeyondGeography
Jun 2013
#36
I'm not trying to delve into dark CT here, but was that an in-person interview?
randome
Jun 2013
#61
he went to work for Booz Allen Hamilton AFTER he first spoke to Greenwald in January!
VanillaRhapsody
Jun 2013
#147
To be entirely fair, he was at the NSA in other positions for the past few years.
randome
Jun 2013
#151
In a hurry to have a journalist connected to possible treason investigated...
VanillaRhapsody
Jun 2013
#295
Did he or didn't he. Reportedly doesn't cut it. Either way, whether intentional or not he is now
still_one
Jun 2013
#9
Ah, I see. You're likely right, although I think the Chinese could use him as a bargaining chip.
randome
Jun 2013
#132
Yes, well, 'reportedly' the NSA has 'direct access' to all major tech companies.
randome
Jun 2013
#44
I suspect you are right. He probably encouraged him to go public, instead of dealing behind the
still_one
Jun 2013
#170
Ms. Ip is a "pro-Beijing" lawmaker. The sense is that she was delivering a message
MADem
Jun 2013
#262
Giving classified information -even verbally- still violates the oath he took.
randome
Jun 2013
#182
This is not Greenwald's fault by any stretch. It was Snowden's choice to sign
geek tragedy
Jun 2013
#48
A fan of "corporate personhood" in his cheerleading for the CITIZEN's UNITED ruling... nt
MADem
Jun 2013
#301
I disagree. I don't see that he's done anything approaching illegality. nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2013
#70
Greenwald lives in Brazil, so the privilege will probably extend quite far nt
geek tragedy
Jun 2013
#78
Greenwald may have just been holding on for maximum exposure. He has said he has additional info and
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#209
Woodward is a lying hack. But people forget, his first "big story" with that guy Bernstein had some
MADem
Jun 2013
#290
Many don't know that he knew Scotty was lying during the Plame affair and he kept quiet.
reusrename
Jun 2013
#294
Maybe it was another Powerpoint presentation! Damn you, Microsoft! Damn you to hell!
randome
Jun 2013
#155
"By the way, Mr. Obama, now that your spy has confessed your many Capitalist Pig sins..."
randome
Jun 2013
#167
He didn't even show a slide into anything. Just an increases use of pen registers and trap devices.
BenzoDia
Jun 2013
#56
omg Richard Clarke, the former National Coordinator for Securrity, Infrastructure Protection and
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#64
That is an allegation. It remains to be seen if Snowden did anything of the kind.
avaistheone1
Jun 2013
#80
So you don't believe everything you read in the papers? Does that include the Guardian?
randome
Jun 2013
#183
I never claimed he did. But he claimed -in the newspaper report- that he showed...
randome
Jun 2013
#217
I think it's safe to assume employees of the Chinese government read newspapers, though.
randome
Jun 2013
#219
You think the Pauls will support this latest bit of info? Apparently, Snowden is a serious Paulite.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#117
What's even more alarming is that it's not only "repukes" and "Paulites". Look around.
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#162
It'll be interesting to see if Glenn Greenwald will continue defending him now
MrScorpio
Jun 2013
#97
I begin to think that this kid is just a loose canon. Stupid managers at BAH hired him! n/t
JackN415
Jun 2013
#110
Not everyone agrees that it's spying when data is stored and never looked at unless with a warrant.
randome
Jun 2013
#123
Pen registers have been used for decades and are constitutional with a court order.
BenzoDia
Jun 2013
#136
His documents could be provided by the Chinese. His travel to HK is now explained.
JackN415
Jun 2013
#120
Did Snowden reveal anything that the Chinese or anyone else did not already know?
azurnoir
Jun 2013
#140
"He said in that interview he could give someone the identity of every agent world wide"
PragmaticLiberal
Jun 2013
#199
"release of official secrets, which is illegal in Hong Kong and the United States".
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#172
Maybe this is why China has been so vigorously hacking American computers...
AZ Progressive
Jun 2013
#173
"identified 36 offenses with which Mr. Snowden could be charged under both Hong Kong and.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#205
I am much more interested in surveillance by NSA. IF Snowden has papers to prove that US is hacking
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#222
Hardly. He might be a hero to Chinese, whistleblower to those who only care that he provided the
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#226
Why does it matter? Is the info he revealed true? I believe so. Everything else is irrelevant.
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#232
Snowden alleged that US government is spying on its own and foreign citizens without a justifiable
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#239
Correction, I believe that information itself is true, who presents that information is irrelevant.
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#242
Again, thank you for sharing your opinion. Declaring something as fact hardly makes it so.
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#246
Of course it's my opinion, did I claim it wasn't? Also, it would be up to the courts to decide
idwiyo
Jun 2013
#282
and giddy with delight to have the guy who can tell them to what extent
arely staircase
Jun 2013
#238
The spying is still happening. It's relevant. Snowden's future prospects: not nearly as relevant.
DisgustipatedinCA
Jun 2013
#302