Are The American People Being Spied On Or Not?

[AnotherMcIntosh]

170. I agree with your OP but there is no correlation between those who are unwilling to give

up the 2nd Amendment as now being the ones who are "willing to destroy the 4th and the 5th and even the 1st."

Who have you seen that are supportive of the 2nd Amendment who are willing to do that? Is there anybody in particular?

I've not seen that at all.

In fact, I'm willing to assume that each and every person who is "willing to destroy the 4th and the 5th and even the 1st" is also willing to destroy the 2nd Amendment as well.

Bloomberg, as an example, who is motivated to use his army of police officers to make unconstitutional stops-and-frisks, and who is motivated to use his army of police officers to violently suppress peaceful Occupy Wall Street protestors, is also motivated to do away with the 2nd Amendment.

He's not alone. There are top-level Republicans who oppose the right to privacy, due process of law, and free speech, and common decency. But do they truly share the strong support of the 2nd Amendment as much as many of their authoritarin followers do? Before Democrats were tarred with the passage of the AWB, llinois' Governor Ryan (R) was actively pushing legislation for more gun control in Illinois.

As much as some people dislike those who own firearms (whether such dislike is justified or not), I suggest that it is a mistake to categorize those who own firearms for self-defense and who support the 2nd Amendment as being supportive of the further destruction of the 4th, 5th, 1st Amendments.