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310. actually Snowden may be the biggest hero of our lifetime

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At this point the Snowden fan club has a lot of egg on their faces. [View all] Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 OP

Makes one wonder if he was working for them all along Floyd_Gondolli Jun 2013 #1

Oooooh! Is it going to stop being "terrorists!" and become "TRAITORS!"? sibelian Jun 2013 #5

"Point of order, Mr. Chairman! Are you now, or have you ever been....!?" villager Jun 2013 #67

Right, all DU is calling Snowden a member of the Communist Party emulatorloo Jun 2013 #97

It doesn't take "all of DU" kiva Jun 2013 #133

Got threads where he is called a Communist Party member? emulatorloo Jun 2013 #145

I sort of think that when one brings China into the conversation, kiva Jun 2013 #149

I guess I don't make that assumption. Snowden strikes me as a libertarian emulatorloo Jun 2013 #157

I didn't think that. In this country, Communism is fairly passe as a cause. Hekate Jun 2013 #266

I agree, but Communism is still a hot button for many people. kiva Jun 2013 #268

i'm more inclined to think that Abukhatar Jun 2013 #295

I was wondering the same thing meow2u3 Jun 2013 #52

Most that don't want to be nineteen50 Jun 2013 #96

What is the evidence? marions ghost Jun 2013 #123

The OP is mischaracterizing the issue Maedhros Jun 2013 #156

EXACTLY! DissidentVoice Jun 2013 #164

Many here have been practically anointing him. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #176

That's on them. Maedhros Jun 2013 #217

Snowden was the one who made it about Snowden when he decided not to be anonymous. pnwmom Jun 2013 #223

I heard the Pope is in route to Hong Kong to kiss his hand davidpdx Jun 2013 #328

Hell yes..... paleotn Jun 2013 #185

what issue? Abukhatar Jun 2013 #239

Nice try at misdirection. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #277

you are getting by screwed by corporations everyday... Abukhatar Jun 2013 #282

So since corporations screw us it's OK for the government to do it too? truebluegreen Jun 2013 #306

.... sibelian Jun 2013 #336

It's nothing compared to the blood on the hands of those who lied America into war. Octafish Jun 2013 #2

+1. nt SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #6

people who sell their country's secrets to foreign govenrments are always held in special contempt arely staircase Jun 2013 #7

Snowden sold info? grasswire Jun 2013 #37

trading it for protection=selling arely staircase Jun 2013 #43

ah, creative speculation nt grasswire Jun 2013 #57

nope, just facts arely staircase Jun 2013 #64

you have yet to provide any evidence of your claims nt grasswire Jun 2013 #68

yes i have arely staircase Jun 2013 #81

Neither creative nor speculation. -nt gcomeau Jun 2013 #66

But what 'secrets' did he give China. pangaia Jun 2013 #138

how we are hacking them arely staircase Jun 2013 #144

My understanding pangaia Jun 2013 #155

but don't forget he said we went after their routers azurnoir Jun 2013 #165

common sense I wondered how long before the rug was pulled Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #311

But some old information is far more significant than other old information eridani Jun 2013 #338

slightly more popular than drone murderers as well? nt msongs Jun 2013 #99

much less. nt arely staircase Jun 2013 #151

Yep! nineteen50 Jun 2013 #110

He sold NOTHING. Th1onein Jun 2013 #260

he sold his country's secrets to a foreign (totalitarian) government for sactuary arely staircase Jun 2013 #262

That's a spin. Th1onein Jun 2013 #327

Which is pretty damned chickenshit compared to the one percenters who packed up eridani Jun 2013 #339

of course two wrongs don't mak a right. arely staircase Jun 2013 #345

he is selling it in front of our eyes arely staircase Jun 2013 #354

Unless those secrets are corporate, then it's called capitalism and all is forgiven Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #353

None of that justifies selling us out to the Chinese treestar Jun 2013 #127

Glenn Greenwald is Chinese? I never knew that. Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #261

nope arely staircase Jun 2013 #267

Huh? treestar Jun 2013 #283

What? Warren Stupidity Jun 2013 #320

exactly arely staircase Jun 2013 #264

And pretty damned chickenshit compared to giving large chunks of our manufacturing capacity eridani Jun 2013 #340

That may be a problem but it's nothing to giving our treestar Jun 2013 #342

Destruction of our industrial base = trivial eridani Jun 2013 #347

That's delusional treestar Jun 2013 #349

It seems to be mainly valuable for enabling the 1% to fuck everyone else over eridani Jun 2013 #350

Yes... MissDeeds Jun 2013 #194

Yes, it's nothing compared to that--but two wrongs don't make a right... Moonwalk Jun 2013 #203

Or that stylish armband they're all wearing now kenny blankenship Jun 2013 #222

This one got to me... Octafish Jun 2013 #315

and that is what is troubling, why didn't he go to a Congress Person. He could have gone to Rand still_one Jun 2013 #3

Ron Wyden asked the DNI point blank if the Govt was collecting all this data and the man lied! dkf Jun 2013 #15

The thing is it was public knowledge that Wyden was looking in to this davidpdx Jun 2013 #329

Doesn't matter because Snowden realized Wyden couldn't do anything anyway. dkf Jun 2013 #331

Why couldn't Wyden have done something? davidpdx Jun 2013 #333

Wyden asked Clapper point blank if they were collecting any data on millions of Americans dkf Jun 2013 #334

That didn't answer the question I asked davidpdx Jun 2013 #346

Going to Rand or Bernie would have still violated his clearance davidn3600 Jun 2013 #20

Wrong. jeff47 Jun 2013 #59

First Amendment Sgent Jun 2013 #80

First amendment doesn't apply. jeff47 Jun 2013 #126

Actually he would have been better off going to Wyden, since he was one of the ones davidpdx Jun 2013 #330

Isn't he a Rand Paul supporter? I'm thinking he has worked with Paul on this. AlinPA Jun 2013 #41

Ron, not Rand oberliner Jun 2013 #169

Yep. I mixed up Rand with Ron when I read Ron Paul's calling Snowden a hero; Rand then said AlinPA Jun 2013 #172

remember FBI whistleblower sibel edmonds, went through official channels, gagged in 2004 Monkie Jun 2013 #44

Damn... Weird karma that I replied to this post at the same time you did. Just submitted later... cascadiance Jun 2013 #56

great minds roll in the same gutter? n/t Monkie Jun 2013 #72

The point is, the government/nsa acted under the law as it stands. Snowden is not a whistleblower Windy Jun 2013 #255

Ask Sibel Edmonds why this DOES NOT WORK! "State Secrets Privilege" ran her life! cascadiance Jun 2013 #47

Something not working on one occasion treestar Jun 2013 #130

Sorry, it wasn't just "one occasion"... She's just the most visible of MANY such cases... cascadiance Jun 2013 #147

Alan Grayson would have timdog44 Jun 2013 #112

Exactly.. that would have accomplished the same thing.. DCBob Jun 2013 #116

Thomas Drake wrote today, Snowden has seen what happens to other whistleblowers lately. Hissyspit Jun 2013 #254

Whistleblower Protection Act DCBob Jun 2013 #265

"National Whistleblowers Center issued a statement on Re-Introduction of Whistleblower Protection Hissyspit Jun 2013 #269

"The WPEA makes federal whistleblower rights stronger than at any time in history." DCBob Jun 2013 #271

How does one go about getting a meeting with Rand Paul... Hippo_Tron Jun 2013 #285

Handing this information over to the Chinese puts this whole thing on another level. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #4

"less and less"??? Seriously? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #38

I was trying over the past few days to wait and see what happened. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #45

Hyperventilate much? truebluegreen Jun 2013 #278

why did I strike a nerve? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #281

As if. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #305

Oh I one of the ones that didn't make Snowden a hero....sounds silly VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #321

Is English your mother tongue? Just asking. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #324

You've been on the "Interwebs" how long? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #325

No we don't. You need to give it a rest. reformist2 Jun 2013 #8

Yeah, you do. gcomeau Jun 2013 #69

Wait-- so did we all know about this program already, or is he a terrible traitor for revealing Marr Jun 2013 #73

I wish you would pay attention before typing. gcomeau Jun 2013 #76

Ah well I'm glad this whole NSA thing can be put to rest now. L0oniX Jun 2013 #9

The NSA thing is important, and it's good to know.... OKNancy Jun 2013 #19

All what info? Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #40

Do we care that it was Toto that pulled the curtains aside ozone_man Jun 2013 #307

After this new bit of info re "hero" HappyMe Jun 2013 #31

LOL: "Hong Kong Eddie" SunSeeker Jun 2013 #146

The real story that everyone missed... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #49

Snowden was the IT guy. jeff47 Jun 2013 #61

No Jeff you STILL missed it... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #88

I'm afraid not. jeff47 Jun 2013 #100

Not for NSA dude....thats just wrong! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #107

Do we need to hire federal workers to be janitors at the NSA? (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #113

Now you have demoted him to just a janitor? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #159

We can't have more federal employees because the Investor Class isn't whathehell Jun 2013 #221

Whelp....we are seeing the end result of that theory... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #224

Yep...The country's going to hell due to the obscene greed of the One Percent & their lackeys. n/t whathehell Jun 2013 #231

No, just asking how far you think it should go. jeff47 Jun 2013 #287

What were they before they were outsourced to the Private Contractors? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #288

Before they were heavily using contractors, technology moved slower. jeff47 Jun 2013 #289

for the Janitors? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #291

That sounds eerily similar to the argument given for why we need VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #292

Only if you think I'm saying we must retain the status quo. jeff47 Jun 2013 #293

Do you think that I believe that they can all go away POOF in one fell swoop... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #294

Even search through the data is handled by contractors HipChick Jun 2013 #249

I had a little cubbyhole in my computer room... jmowreader Jun 2013 #356

As I said a bit ago, I'm waiting to see what transpires. MineralMan Jun 2013 #10

I'm with you MineralMan. Marie Marie Jun 2013 #105

Yes, that's where I've been. longship Jun 2013 #119

They have Snow on their faces flamingdem Jun 2013 #11

this was orchestrated to undermine Obama and his trip to China. Whisp Jun 2013 #12

Looking forward to Glen being exposed flamingdem Jun 2013 #14

No, no, no!!! Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #121

there is a coincidence Whisp Jun 2013 #129

I thought the meeting was in China also. Summer Hathaway Jun 2013 #152

I agree with Cali-Democrat warrior1 Jun 2013 #13

And I agree with you agreeing with Cali-Democrat madokie Jun 2013 #51

You know it's possible to be concerned about civil liberties without BainsBane Jun 2013 #16

+1 Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #23

YUP Skittles Jun 2013 #180

I agree with you on the first part davidpdx Jun 2013 #332

I agree. This is treason, Snowden is a traitor and should be dealt with as such. DrewFlorida Jun 2013 #17

If you have proof that he delivered Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #18

Thank you for pointing that out -- Hell Hath No Fury Jun 2013 #39

That is what he says. Do you trust him? I have a hard time believing a word he says. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #101

You wanted proof....you got it VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #42

Does his own words count? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #54

Naming specific targets is DETAILED information. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #131

exactly frylock Jun 2013 #143

LOL Marrah_G Jun 2013 #21

+1. graham4anything Jun 2013 #22

Amazing... KharmaTrain Jun 2013 #24

He should be droned. The Link Jun 2013 #25

You're sick and don't belong on a democrat focused board. Due process is what we adhere to here. Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #33

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #35

err...no we dont galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #55

If I can't emphatically state that democrats are for due process and that they oppose the death Ed Suspicious Jun 2013 #65

I'm right there with you but the proof is in the pudding. Nt galileoreloaded Jun 2013 #86

Can you be specific? jberryhill Jun 2013 #109

As I stated on another thread... zeeland Jun 2013 #102

There are Blue Dogs in this party that will disagree with you VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #209

Like Obama? alarimer Jun 2013 #243

SHHHHHH. Shush, you. sibelian Jun 2013 #297

that's rather un-American grasswire Jun 2013 #71

The sarcasm tag is useful. Laelth Jun 2013 #114

Unacceptable. enlightenment Jun 2013 #263

Can't wait to hear what fellow hero Greenwald has to say. ucrdem Jun 2013 #26

oh no I don't want egg on my face Enrique Jun 2013 #27

He "smeared" himself VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #46

Well that's just ironic. JoeyT Jun 2013 #84

Project much? VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #85

Given that I wasn't part of his fan club, not especially. JoeyT Jun 2013 #91

Oh like you Blend! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #94

By all means, find a post where I called him a hero. JoeyT Jun 2013 #98

I bet those Canadians keep boxes in their gargages, kiva Jun 2013 #137

Too true Aerows Jun 2013 #272

Four for sure. Two especially. Sognefjord Jun 2013 #323

HNK! Scuse me?! sibelian Jun 2013 #337

Snowden's Smearing himself. Cha Jun 2013 #87

... with creosote. sibelian Jun 2013 #344

RE: "..unless the program is actually criminal." Make7 Jun 2013 #28

So then Dr Tiller's killer was justified because VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #58

+1000 leftynyc Jun 2013 #79

Well, I'm feeling REALLY eggy. And kind of TREACHEROUS. sibelian Jun 2013 #29

Has any DU'er actually said anything like that to you emulatorloo Jun 2013 #122

Yes, I was being rhetorical. sibelian Jun 2013 #299

I really share your frustration. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #303

Link ??? WillyT Jun 2013 #30

here you go! VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #89

I, personally, don't give a flying fuck. We've been spying and hacking for decades and I am sure the Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #32

but NOW they have seen documents detailing WHAT we did.... VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #92

Whatever. We know they are doing the same to us. It's the how that matters. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #258

Whatever indeed VanillaRhapsody Jun 2013 #270

It's his revelations about the NSA spying on the people, not Snowden, that concerns me. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #34

Fear works Andy823 Jun 2013 #36

Your call for caution and calm reflection is timely. Laelth Jun 2013 #125

Well... Andy823 Jun 2013 #141

Fair enough. Laelth Jun 2013 #153

Yes it is speculation Andy823 Jun 2013 #212

I don't belong to any fan club, but I sure do appreciate the conversation that Autumn Jun 2013 #48

oh yes grasswire Jun 2013 #74

Aha! He works for Walmart! Lint Head Jun 2013 #50

This does not invalidate what he alsame Jun 2013 #53

Espionage is a secondary issue? Chan790 Jun 2013 #290

It is possible to support alsame Jun 2013 #302

i know this is the US, but revealing to a newspaper is not the same as revealing to a government? Monkie Jun 2013 #60

When you reveal it with the intent of them publicizing it... gcomeau Jun 2013 #75

hello mr capslock, the US broke EU law and international law Monkie Jun 2013 #104

Umm... gcomeau Jun 2013 #106

Ah, the irony. jeff47 Jun 2013 #135

i bet microsoft appreciated the irony of paying 1.9 billion dollars in fines for breaking EU law Monkie Jun 2013 #167

You really should take a moment to think about your argument. jeff47 Jun 2013 #286

i took a moment to think, and think you misunderstand Monkie Jun 2013 #318

well said sir Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #312

Beg to differ. cuncator Jun 2013 #160

I, too, am a devotee of evidence and the rule of law. grasswire Jun 2013 #77

That's pretty much what Henry Pate said to John Brown after the battle of Black Jack LanternWaste Jun 2013 #62

Tssk... ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #63

Boo. Hiss. No need for "I told you so's". randome Jun 2013 #70

I wonder if he is the only bad apple in the 500,000 private contractor employees.... kentuck Jun 2013 #78

I am not sure I buy Snowden's claims of access 100 percent. Can he really wiretap Obama? emulatorloo Jun 2013 #140

Secret and Top Secret clearance does not give you Carte Blanche HipChick Jun 2013 #171

He had enough to make a lot of people nervous. kentuck Jun 2013 #183

That's what he claims. I am not sure his claims are 100 per cent accurate. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #216

Yeah...I am not one for jumping on bandwagons until more information comes out HipChick Jun 2013 #226

Nope...I don't believe what he is claiming HipChick Jun 2013 #225

He lied about govt phone surveillance of US citizens, too. DevonRex Jun 2013 #82

to be fair a lot of them didn't know Hong Kong was part of China JI7 Jun 2013 #83

Character and messenger assassination nineteen50 Jun 2013 #90

Just for you, Cali. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #93

You remind me of those spambots LittleBlue Jun 2013 #95

+1 burnodo Jun 2013 #103

They have a quota of Hate Points to distribute daily. Sognefjord Jun 2013 #111

And the spying fan club has a lot of mud on their hands. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #108

i'm in the 4th amendment fan club.. frylock Jun 2013 #115

+1 Well said. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #132

Respectfully, I have no egg on my face Cali_Democrat....... Swede Atlanta Jun 2013 #117

good post swede atlanta locks Jun 2013 #161

Where is your evidence that he has released secrets marions ghost Jun 2013 #118

No, they don't. woo me with science Jun 2013 #120

Cali-Democrat. timdog44 Jun 2013 #124

Agreed. Nobody elected all those uppity abolitionists either. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #187

Indeed! HangOnKids Jun 2013 #213

This isn't about Snowden. It is about you and me and everyone who is KurtNYC Jun 2013 #128

It is about us, and I want my government back from the snakes who pull this crap every week. ucrdem Jun 2013 #134

I don't trust that little weasel and think he should be tried for treason. Who is bankrolling him appleannie1 Jun 2013 #136

what does it take warrprayer Jun 2013 #139

president jeb bush having these same powers.. frylock Jun 2013 #170

Haven't you been listening? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #177

LOL n/t warrprayer Jun 2013 #197

sensible woodchucks warrprayer Jun 2013 #195

What if he decided to talk to al Qaeda or the Aryan Nations, instead of Glenn Greenwald? baldguy Jun 2013 #142

And your point is? Swede Atlanta Jun 2013 #154

The point is that there shouldn't be one guy deciding who know our secrets. baldguy Jun 2013 #300

It's called a bow shot Android3.14 Jun 2013 #148

Many here are often knee-jerkers when it comes to issues like this. DCBob Jun 2013 #150

5 words Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #158

I think the Clapper fan club has more, actually MNBrewer Jun 2013 #162

No egg on my face. RILib Jun 2013 #163

Did he do it? lame54 Jun 2013 #166

Apparently there was no congressional approval Politicalboi Jun 2013 #168

Snowden is misguided mehrrh Jun 2013 #173

Damn Skippy! nt MrScorpio Jun 2013 #174

DOUBLE PLUS GOOD POST! Dr Fate Jun 2013 #175

LOL, if he is so crazy why is the Administration so upset about this? You are freaking clueless! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #178

Also, nice hit and run away post. Classy! n-t Logical Jun 2013 #179

And he's the only one we know of because he seems to think he's a man with principles Snake Plissken Jun 2013 #181

I see a few noses are out of joint here. Great post, Cali_Democrat. lamp_shade Jun 2013 #182

Do you mind if I use that argument in another thread? Dr Fate Jun 2013 #190

Not at all. lamp_shade Jun 2013 #196

Thanks. What was it? Dr Fate Jun 2013 #200

God I Needed A Belly Laugh Today! HangOnKids Jun 2013 #220

unfortunately without the proper tag LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #232

Eggs benedict. ucrdem Jun 2013 #184

Yup. Anyone who gets that cosy with China is a traitor by definition. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #192

Nothing against China, ucrdem Jun 2013 #201

Exactly. Who else is going to make my clothes and everything else I own? Dr Fate Jun 2013 #202

What are you trying to say? ucrdem Jun 2013 #206

That Snowden's Chinese dealings & connections proves he is a traitor. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #210

Okay I think I follow you. ucrdem Jun 2013 #227

What effect does his bio have on LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #234

Very little, why? ucrdem Jun 2013 #235

Because in the previous post you seem to imply his bio has some sort of impact LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #238

No, just on his credibility, or more specificallly ucrdem Jun 2013 #241

I'd defend the NSA and US/China business dealings even if this came out under Bush. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #236

Doubtful. But Bush is out of office and the sun is shining. ucrdem Jun 2013 #240

True. A little "sunshine" on an email or two never hurt no one. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #248

Strut on brother! ucrdem Jun 2013 #250

LOL! I wish I had come up with that. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #253

You're doing just fine on your own. ucrdem Jun 2013 #256

This message was self-deleted by its author emulatorloo Jun 2013 #245

OT, but I just wanted to say hello. I haven't seen you in a long time, and I'm happy you're here. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #257

Good to hear from you! Dr Fate Jun 2013 #274

He Did Us All Favor - I Thank Him cantbeserious Jun 2013 #186

Completely agree... cynatnite Jun 2013 #188

hong kong DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #189

Everything on my desk was made there. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #193

all this secret stuff is too secret we should know polynomial Jun 2013 #191

Egg My Ass! BillyRibs Jun 2013 #198

lol, you are a toady,. Civilization2 Jun 2013 #199

I don't care at all what he did or didn't do or what his motivations are TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #204

"that should be resolved through legislation" ? Abq_Sarah Jun 2013 #205

If only the Underground Railroaders had thought that way. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #214

When it's the NSA breaking the law Abq_Sarah Jun 2013 #242

How anyone can defend the NSA is beyond me damnedifIknow Jun 2013 #207

Us centrists would be defending the NSA even if all this came out under Bush. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #228

Missed the part of the OP that "defended" the NSA emulatorloo Jun 2013 #237

You would stand with me in attacking Snowden if this came out under Bush. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #244

Loving your Strawman Centrist act. Very clever! emulatorloo Jun 2013 #247

How dare you question my centrist values. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #251

LOL emulatorloo Jun 2013 #259

Or defending Obama. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #273

Have fun brother. emulatorloo Jun 2013 #313

Can't be bothered with pesky details. Cha Jun 2013 #298

I certainly do not hate Obama damnedifIknow Jun 2013 #246

I have as much contempt for Snowden as I do for Scooter Libby, Karl Rove, et al. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #208

I think I saw timdog44 Jun 2013 #219

"Shilling" is exactly right. He timed this perfectly, didn't he? Break news & go on book tour. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #229

I think his book timdog44 Jun 2013 #233

And where does that pressure to change the law begin? With us. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #211

Binary thinking A Little Weird Jun 2013 #215

Why look! It's the civil liberty-hating Julian Assange hate club. Sorry about your pony lol n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #218

Why look! It's the government-hating Ron Paul Revolution fan club. Sorry about your loss lol n/t Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #314

Frightening posts like this make me long for the unrec option... joeybee12 Jun 2013 #230

what i find interesting and frightening is.... madrchsod Jun 2013 #280

^^ pecwae Jun 2013 #296

"Law changes" made by bought-and-paid-for politicians Canuckistanian Jun 2013 #252

We know Snowjob's Chinese friends are evil. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #275

Is it possible? kentuck Jun 2013 #276

i would say it is possible.... madrchsod Jun 2013 #279

Bwahahaha! Shill. Daemonaquila Jun 2013 #284

If it wasn't obvious hypocrisy I would engage them on the issue Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #304

I really have not read that much avebury Jun 2013 #301

LAME, LAMER, and LAMEST. bvar22 Jun 2013 #308

anti snowden quislings think we give a crap what they think Rise Rebel Resist Jun 2013 #309

actually Snowden may be the biggest hero of our lifetime backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #310

+1 Octafish Jun 2013 #316

This sounds like talking points from newsmax. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #317

Hit pieces are so easily spotted why do people still try? Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #319

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #322

And we wonder Phlem Jun 2013 #326

The Mysterious Mr Snowden ucrdem Jun 2013 #335

He is now officially a traitor UCmeNdc Jun 2013 #341

He is a hero Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #343

Damn right, he's a traitor! B Calm Jun 2013 #348

Read this piece: All the Infrastructure a Tyrant Would Need dkf Jun 2013 #351

When we give them our jobs and technology, treason becomes capitalism$$ Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #352

Here's a person who does not understand what his Code of Ethics contains ir either he just does not Thinkingabout Jun 2013 #355