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40. Why do I get the feeling they have a more cost-effective program?

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 01:52 PM

Jun 2013

As for H-1Bs, a lot of the ones from China have interesting resumes that show a 6-8 year span where they worked for NGOs but no military service. Believe me, they don't get security clearances, and it's a lot damned harder to get a PRC H-1B than it used to be when they were being hired by the droves to work in network engineering positions for the same telcos that acquire most of PRISM's data off the network backbone switches - so brain drain from China is probably not as big problem as it once was. War is Peace.

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NSA Chief General Kieth Alexander and "The Secret War" [View all] Laelth Jun 2013 OP

Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2013 #1

Thanks. I think this needs more attention. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #6

i'm with you. xchrom Jun 2013 #9

And I am glad you are. Laelth Jun 2013 #12

that is a very good article. thanks for posting the link cali Jun 2013 #2

Yep. Laelth Jun 2013 #19

This isn't about terrorism any more. It's about cyber-warfare. Laelth Jun 2013 #3

Also worth considering. Laelth Jun 2013 #4

K&R octoberlib Jun 2013 #5

Thanks for the k&r. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #28

This is absolutely, without a doubt, Orwellian, Outrageous, and Alarming! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #7

Definitely worth considering very carefully. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #32

Oh, and forgot to thank you for posting. K&R! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #8

You are quite welcome. Laelth Jun 2013 #10

Absolutely agreed. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #15

I haven't had enough time to think about this in great detail. Laelth Jun 2013 #18

Let me add that I now understand the source of our sabre-rattling toward Iran. Laelth Jun 2013 #20

Excellent point. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #30

Syria is Iran's proxy. Laelth Jun 2013 #31

Ginnin' us up for yet another one, eh? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #35

There's a lot of money to be made. Laelth Jun 2013 #36

What threat, what proof, and what allies? leveymg Jun 2013 #41

Um, this essay. Laelth Jun 2013 #42

I would classify them as responding in kind. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #43

I agree. Laelth Jun 2013 #44

Yes, and very unpredictable times, as well. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #46

An Interesting Excerpt: Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #49

Update. Laelth Jun 2013 #53

Just got home and watched the report on MSNBC. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #56

I haven't been able to think about anything else all day. Laelth Jun 2013 #57

Want to help me write a script? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #62

Kick! octoberlib Jun 2013 #11

Thanks. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #55

I'm continuing to read. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #13

I suspect the real danger is this. Laelth Jun 2013 #16

That's exactly what I meant. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #17

Thanks for posting this and the link to unhappycampers OP Autumn Jun 2013 #14

My pleasure. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #58

Wow, that is some scary shit! MynameisBlarney Jun 2013 #21

I doubt that it can be curtailed at this point. Laelth Jun 2013 #22

There HAS to be a way... MynameisBlarney Jun 2013 #23

Yesterday, I would have agreed with you. Laelth Jun 2013 #27

I guess I'm being overly optimistic about my fellow citizens MynameisBlarney Jun 2013 #29

I certainly hope you are right. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #61

Me too. MynameisBlarney Jun 2013 #70

Also... MynameisBlarney Jun 2013 #24

That's funny. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #25

The NSA does have its uses! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #33

k&r n/t RainDog Jun 2013 #26

Thanks. I think this needs more attention. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #64

spooky. kick. Sheri Jun 2013 #34

Nice pun. ;) Laelth Jun 2013 #37

This was worth $80 billion? leveymg Jun 2013 #38

Well, we've been hacking Chinese state secrets for years. Laelth Jun 2013 #39

Why do I get the feeling they have a more cost-effective program? leveymg Jun 2013 #40

Kind of like Operation PaperClip Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #45

That's what I am thinking. Laelth Jun 2013 #48

Tin foil hat moment nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #47

At this strange moment in history, I think a tinfoil hat is appropriate. Laelth Jun 2013 #67

Yup... it is one of those moments nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #68

I hear you. Laelth Jun 2013 #72

I like this comment from Proteus at the Wired link: Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #50

It sounds incredibly expensive... sibelian Jun 2013 #51

It is incredibly expensive. Laelth Jun 2013 #52

James Bamford is a giant. Octafish Jun 2013 #54

Yes, he is. Laelth Jun 2013 #63

Thank you, Laelth! Octafish Jun 2013 #66

the comments section is definitely worth reading nt grasswire Jun 2013 #59

I agree. The comments are fascinating. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #65

maybe THIS is what Snowden was warning us about ultimately grasswire Jun 2013 #60

And this from the Reddit thread octoberlib Jun 2013 #69

K&R woo me with science Jun 2013 #71