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Nimajneb Nilknarf

(319 posts)
37. Culling of people who have already decided the case and unwilling or unable to change their minds
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 02:33 PM
Jun 2013

based on the evidence that actually gets presented in court is essential to the integrity of the process.

It is certain that not all of the potential evidence we have read and heard on TV, radio, and the Internet will be presented in the controlled environment of the trial. For example, evidence of Mr. Martin's drug use, affinity for firearms and underage girls, etc. are probably not germane to anything at issue, yet millions of people have had their opinions influenced by them. Someone who could not disregard that data, assuming that it won't be presented in court, would not make a good juror. Nor would someone who simply believes that Zimmerman is guilty based on demographics - A whitish adult man shot and killed an unarmed black teenager, and that's all I need to know (we read just that here on DU multiple times every day).

A good juror must be willing to listen carefully, able to take notes and retain information, and above all open to changing his or her opinion based on what the judge allows to be presented. Very few people don't have opinions about the case. The important thing for a juror is to be able to abandon an opinion when presented with convincing proof that it was not correct.

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stupid, stupid, stupid. rucky Jun 2013 #1
+1000 !!!! orpupilofnature57 Jun 2013 #2
Yep. And he could be in big trouble according to some legal experts davidn3600 Jun 2013 #5
No, potential jurors being questioned are not under oath. former9thward Jun 2013 #46
I don't think that is true Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #54
Dang grok Jun 2013 #3
Perjury is not on the table. former9thward Jun 2013 #48
maybe it's called something else then grok Jun 2013 #58
Never prosecuted. former9thward Jun 2013 #59
Yes they are lawwolf Jun 2013 #60
Again, different courts do it differently. former9thward Jun 2013 #62
I bet a few bigoted gun nuts end up on jury. Hoyt Jun 2013 #4
As opposed to those that think he's guilty premium Jun 2013 #10
Nope. Just talking about those like Zimmerman -- bigoted bullies who loves their guns Hoyt Jun 2013 #14
So you're not ok with gun owners on the jury, premium Jun 2013 #15
I hope the jury is fair. I think fairness will tick off most gun cultists. Hoyt Jun 2013 #22
Ahh Hoyt, premium Jun 2013 #23
Six jurors in Florida criminal cases. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #24
There's only 6 jurors on a jury in FL? nt. premium Jun 2013 #25
That's right. The Zimmerman trial will have six jurors and four alternates. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #26
Didn't know that. premium Jun 2013 #28
cool answer. +1 graham4anything Jun 2013 #29
Yes, just the kind of answer one might give in order to be certain of being ejected from the jury Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #31
the cool answer remark was specific to Hoyt's response, not to the juror(in case it wasn't clear) graham4anything Jun 2013 #32
Hoyt's responses, and yours, would surely exclude both of you from the jury for cause. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #35
My writing here would most definitely exclude me because I think he is guilty(and I am juror #8)LOL graham4anything Jun 2013 #36
Your opinion that he is guilty is not really the issue, graham4anything. There probably will be Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #38
and also the fact that I an not in NJ. In 99.999% of cases, I could be very fair. This one? IDK graham4anything Jun 2013 #42
I definitely would be excluded from jury. As far as I am concerned, the moment Zman grabbed his gun Hoyt Jun 2013 #40
And I am sure that you would answer voir dire questions honestly and candidly. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #41
The defense team for bigoted, gun lover Zimmerman would have excluded me from my written responses. Hoyt Jun 2013 #56
"That's my experience." Jenoch Jun 2013 #43
Every gun owner that prepares/trains/totes to shoot people is "suspicious" in my mind. Hoyt Jun 2013 #57
Every gun owner does not do that. I certainly do not. Jenoch Jun 2013 #66
Facebook is evil! SCVDem Jun 2013 #6
it is. I'd worry more about what I'd say and do there Whisp Jun 2013 #18
I refuse to get on FB. SCVDem Jun 2013 #19
one person on here was telling me his real name and stuff JI7 Jun 2013 #63
The man was interviewed by the Orlando Sentinel. He said he didn't remember making the Facebook Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #7
I was listening to the jury selection gvstn Jun 2013 #12
If he was attempting to make a mole of himself, he proved himself unworthy of even that low task. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #13
Absolutely gvstn Jun 2013 #20
bring on the Amish potential jurors KurtNYC Jun 2013 #8
Could the Amish relate to this? SCVDem Jun 2013 #9
Not so fast on the amish grok Jun 2013 #21
They could just let the Amish Mafia take care of Zimmerman. madinmaryland Jun 2013 #34
only works if he has a beard KurtNYC Jun 2013 #55
"...that a person resembling E7" WTF Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #11
that's a lie by the media grok Jun 2013 #16
Google image search. Jenoch Jun 2013 #47
Search term = "E7" ??? n/t Duer 157099 Jun 2013 #53
I was thinking of a photograph of the juror. Jenoch Jun 2013 #65
Yes, cameras are permitted but their use is restricted. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #71
The problem in this day and age is.... PennsylvaniaMatt Jun 2013 #17
WTF does Person resembling mean???That sounds racist to me. What is resembling? graham4anything Jun 2013 #27
It's ABC News' way of maintaining a veneer of plausible deniability against accusations that they Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #30
btw, this shows that ALL info is already known on most people, so the culling is really not importan graham4anything Jun 2013 #33
Culling of people who have already decided the case and unwilling or unable to change their minds Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #37
btw, I have been on juries. And I can in 99.99999% of the time be swayed by evidence and fair. graham4anything Jun 2013 #44
To be excused from any jury you need only say "I've made up my mind and it cannot be changed." Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #45
Your scenario only works on Jenoch Jun 2013 #49
It can work on any trial. One can say "I think the defendant is guilty because of how he looks." Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #50
I didn't know the Jenoch Jun 2013 #64
I do think that jurors who say that, should the same day be put onto a different jury. graham4anything Jun 2013 #51
Would you agree that some individuals, due to their temperament, are incapable of rendering good Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #52
Prosecute and jail. hugo_from_TN Jun 2013 #39
Why do people think they can post some shit on FAcebook and people will not find out about it ? JI7 Jun 2013 #61
Surely this idiot has been dismissed. NaturalHigh Jun 2013 #67
Dismissed George Zimmerman juror escorted from courthouse Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #68
still there on facebook grok Jun 2013 #69
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnd it's gone. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #70
I thought the potential jurors were supposed to be anonymous? bunnies Jun 2013 #72
The judge read aloud the name of a Facebook site that he had posted on, and the date of the post. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #73
wow. What a complete idiot. bunnies Jun 2013 #74
Now he's gone public threatening to sue someone for his privacy being breached. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #75
lol! bunnies Jun 2013 #76
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