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sibelian

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Reply to markiv (Reply #41)

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:34 PM

Jun 2013

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We live in a binary political system. If the Dems lose, the Republicans win. [View all] Yavin4 Jun 2013 OP

F*ck that; it's OUR party Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #1

not going to happen. Mediocricy is not good enough. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #2

+1 Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #8

You know that works both ways. I have seen a lot of Obamas supported ripping into Autumn Jun 2013 #3

If there is a progressive third party the republicans win. upaloopa Jun 2013 #4

that argument doesn't wash with me. All it does is give democratic politicians an excuse liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #6

I've gotten to that point. Autumn Jun 2013 #9

We are both right we just have to be willing to live upaloopa Jun 2013 #21

well I can't live with my choice anymore. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #24

Sometimes you have to walk away. If nothing changes why vote for it? Autumn Jun 2013 #45

So, do you honestly believe that if the R's get the WH and BOTH chambers of Congress CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #50

If 8 years of Bush does not covince them of how bad it can be Yavin4 Jun 2013 #52

8 years of Tea Party-driven House legislation, rubberstamped by a GOP POTUS CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #57

you have already managed to hand control to the GOP.. frylock Jun 2013 #84

+1 liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #89

I don't give a rat's ass what Teabaggers think. I care that their reps ENACT legislation. CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #95

shit, we hear all the time "dems can't do that. whatever will the teabaggers say?!!1" frylock Jun 2013 #99

my kids get a raw deal on education no matter who is in office, and I'm tired of democrats liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #58

Maybe you've become a single-issue voter CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #73

go right ahead. I don't care what you do. I will fight for my children's education even in the face liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #76

+10000 nt clarice Jun 2013 #60

Yea, look at the damage the Tea Party did Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #54

um no. the one place there is a progressive third party is Vermont cali Jun 2013 #101

I guess I should have said in National elections upaloopa Jun 2013 #106

Damn straight. riqster Jun 2013 #5

We don't have to settle Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #7

It's become just that for many Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #11

Do you really think Obama is just as evil as Romney? riqster Jun 2013 #16

Once they get a Republican president with a Republican congress then they will see it Yavin4 Jun 2013 #20

Oh yeah. In Ohio for example. riqster Jun 2013 #30

You were the one who referred to him as Proud Public Servant Jun 2013 #23

That is philosophy, and on that level I agree. riqster Jun 2013 #34

The Democratic Underground accepts things as they are? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #63

Accepting the reality of one's surroundings is not acquiescence riqster Jun 2013 #86

Don't you think we could have more than two parties? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #100

Could, yes. riqster Jun 2013 #109

I think so many rally and close ranks around indefensible policy bobduca Jun 2013 #10

i would agree frylock Jun 2013 #85

If the Democrats want the votes of the left they should appeal to the left. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #12

Your vote is a strategic choice with strategic results, not a reward for good behavior Silent3 Jun 2013 #27

well the result is my children don't get a good education with either party. so the results speak liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #33

Thank you DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #56

"Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #75

For all the stuff Obama has done that I don't like... Silent3 Jun 2013 #80

A romney presidency could have been the final nail in the coffin of the GOP. Sirveri Jun 2013 #110

If a Bush presidency wasn't the final nail, why would Romney done the job? Silent3 Jun 2013 #112

This is true - we have two options RainDog Jun 2013 #13

We live in a unitary political system. sibelian Jun 2013 #14

sometimes I feel like cattle being herded into the political corral. liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #19

+10000 One corporate party masquerading as two. woo me with science Jun 2013 #49

TPTB have every aspect of our electoral system rigged to their advantage. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #91

For DU, take a left. For FR, take a right. For Third Party Underground, keep straight. tarheelsunc Jun 2013 #15

The bashing of the President and and of fellow Democrats will not result in anything postive. DCBob Jun 2013 #17

Then Dems need to get their shit together. morningfog Jun 2013 #18

Who defines what getting their "shit together" means? DCBob Jun 2013 #26

You really think so? He is reeling. morningfog Jun 2013 #29

Yes.. and he is not "reeling". DCBob Jun 2013 #32

But they are forcing him to respond and react. They are also controlling morningfog Jun 2013 #37

having to deal with a bunch of lunatics making false claims.. DCBob Jun 2013 #97

Two reasons this is wrong. 1. The very first reply. 2. The mutant republicrat party owns the game Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #22

So what is the difference if a Republican denies GBLT rights Savannahmann Jun 2013 #25

Wasn't DADT ended in the military? Yavin4 Jun 2013 #28

There are those ... JoePhilly Jun 2013 #35

Am I outraged? Yes. I am outraged that I have to pay $925/month in medical premiums. I am liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #40

I don't have children & I"m always amazed at the difference in the school system now, CrispyQ Jun 2013 #102

+1... SidDithers Jun 2013 #77

Sid, as a Canadian you might not know that in most of the US, 29 States Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #82

They can't be fired but can a spouse inherit property or make medical decisions? liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #36

The President cannot unilaterally enact laws about marriage Yavin4 Jun 2013 #38

If you believe that NO progress has been made under this administration CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #53

The billionaire owned media gives a steady stream of talking points to lecture lesser mortals. freshwest Jun 2013 #67

Moderate Democrats along with their Republican cohort just recently gutted Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #74

You should read the responses I've been getting Savannahmann Jun 2013 #93

Please tell me you're kidding. For fuck's sake. cali Jun 2013 #105

As an example, look at recent events in WI Yavin4 Jun 2013 #31

Those with the freedom to ignore this and what's in the OP consider themselves above the rest. freshwest Jun 2013 #66

nope. wrong. datasuspect Jun 2013 #39

+1000000 liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #42

So true olddots Jun 2013 #59

Truth. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #103

From Animal farm: the 'Jones would come back!' speech markiv Jun 2013 #41

+1 Savannahmann Jun 2013 #43

+1 Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #46

The difference is that "Jones" is real, not a fiction Yavin4 Jun 2013 #51

he wasnt gone in the book, either markiv Jun 2013 #55

The book, no matter how powerful, is still fiction. The Republican party is not. Yavin4 Jun 2013 #62

It is fiction, certainly as it is about talking animals but what sort of fiction? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #83

quite apt frylock Jun 2013 #90

+1 sibelian Jun 2013 #98

Sweet! leftstreet Jun 2013 #111

Good post... SidDithers Jun 2013 #44

Agreed.... Bobbie Jo Jun 2013 #65

We do! If authoritarianism wins, we all lose. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #47

Hope and Change.....Its.. ITS A COOKBOOK!!!! markiv Jun 2013 #48

The OP presupposes that blind obediance wins votes and support markiv Jun 2013 #61

My post is realty. Not idealism. Yavin4 Jun 2013 #64

pursuing my idealism? Exuse me. My son being treated like cattle in an education system that does liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #68

The problems of your child's educational system have more to do with your local leaders Yavin4 Jun 2013 #69

The local leaders are responding to the pressure by the feds telling them that if they don't perform liberal_at_heart Jun 2013 #70

Speaking of localities, what State and district do you live in? Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #87

Those who have luxury under the status quo, mock those who hope > work for > change. freshwest Jun 2013 #71

No, the wall streeters, banksters, and billionaires win either way. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #72

Third Parties LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #78

What a one sided view you have of things. And it is insulting to claim LGBT Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #79

And the point of rallying behind Dems who screw us the EXACT same way Repugs screw us is -- ? MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #81

So the democrats LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #88

Dems are still screwing us or trying to screw us (Chained CPI anyone?) in plenty of ways MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #94

Nobody said you had to be grateful for anything CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #96

False paradigm because there are other choices Corruption Inc Jun 2013 #92

Pretty much. People have to be able to fight both interparty AND intraparty fights. Chathamization Jun 2013 #115

When we lose elections, they win. When we win elections, they win. MrSlayer Jun 2013 #104

As Bullwinkle J. Moose would say, Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #107

If that's the case, then LWolf Jun 2013 #108

Maybe one of the worst ideas ever. You must love the 100% blind support GOPers also. They.... Logical Jun 2013 #113

We do not live in a "binary" world. DirkGently Jun 2013 #114