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13. That's why we have a 4th Amendment, to protect us from the government ever having this kind of

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Thu Jun 13, 2013, 03:35 PM

Jun 2013

power. But the Government has passed that responsibility on to Private 'Security' Organizations who have no obligation to protect anyone's rights, other than a moral one of course.

How did that happen? How did OUR Constitutional rights end up in the hands of not very reputable Private, For Profit, Multi Billion Dollar Contractors. Whose insane idea was that?

Not to mention that we now have in charge of our Intelligence, a former employee of one of those For Profit Corporations, Booz Allen. Clapper has no conflict of interest here?? He is now Director of Intelligence where he has influence over Congress to get contracts for his former and most likely future employees.

Are people seriously supporting this or is it that they just did not know? I did not know how bad it was until this week.

To see Democrats defending a mostly Republican Private Business having their personal information at their disposal, is probably one of the most insane things I have ever seen since I first went online on political forums in 2000..

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Let's say a Judge overseeing a high profile case in which a protest group ... [View all] Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 OP

Sure Savannahmann Jun 2013 #1

The metadata is used for a different purpose. reusrename Jun 2013 #58

Thank you! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #59

They did exactly that to someone...was it the CEO of AT&T? lob1 Jun 2013 #2

It was Qwest hobbit709 Jun 2013 #4

Yes, thank you. lob1 Jun 2013 #7

I read that. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #5

That's what the convicted corporate CEO fraudster claims anyways. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #12

But do you think my hypothetical is possible? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #17

The hypothetical is certainly possible. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #19

Does Elliot Spitzer ring a bell? nineteen50 Jun 2013 #24

Forgot about that! n/t Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #34

And John Edwards. I read that his affair was discovered from his JDPriestly Jun 2013 #43

Rielle Hunter leaked the stuff on Edwards JI7 Jun 2013 #44

That is not what I read. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #46

"Let's say"? Shoot, just put it all in the affirmative lol. Rec'd n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #3

Point taken. Thanks for the Rec. ;) n/t Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #6

No doubt. The potential for abuse of all this data is immense. Laelth Jun 2013 #8

It is on both the government (NSA) and corporate spheres. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #9

On the government side, we must remember that there are multiple agencies involved. Laelth Jun 2013 #11

And the key is ... Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #14

Quite. Laelth Jun 2013 #16

So, they say, at least. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #18

can Edward Norton play the evil dude in black suit? snooper2 Jun 2013 #10

That would be my first pick. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #15

Thats actually a good idea quakerboy Jun 2013 #25

You know, I was joking, but that's not a bad concept to put out there. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #26

Adding Two Agents Provocateur: Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #28

I'd watch it quakerboy Jun 2013 #60

That's why we have a 4th Amendment, to protect us from the government ever having this kind of sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #13

'party over policy' is an ugly thing... Earth_First Jun 2013 #21

And there are plenty right here on DU doing exactly that - RC Jun 2013 #36

Maybe 16-20 years ago, whether private corporations working JDPriestly Jun 2013 #45

if a majority of people agreed with the group, their lawyer would have chosen a jury trial arely staircase Jun 2013 #20

Let's say it's some military commissions type trial Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #27

in that case the fix would be in without the need for blackmail arely staircase Jun 2013 #31

Let's say the plot backfires somewhat. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #35

yeah, the group should be controversial (popular w/many, not so w/many) arely staircase Jun 2013 #37

Know how to write a script? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #38

Let's say a Gov of New York is a major pain in the ass to the Bush Admin. They peek into his rhett o rick Jun 2013 #22

Didn't something kind of similar happen to Siegelman? Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #32

Not that I am aware of but I wouldnt doubt it. I think it happens a lot that we never find out about rhett o rick Jun 2013 #47

Yep. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #52

You dont if you just drink the Republican Kool-aid. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #54

Actually, something similar happened to the RNC8 (anarchists) Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #40

I believe it happens a lot. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #48

More than we're allowed to know apparently. n/t Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #51

That's because we cant handle the truth. They are out there guarding the wall. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #53

I see what you did there! Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #55

One of the best dialogs in any movie. And that's what they think of us. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #56

Great movie, great scene. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #57

This guy sure looks like someone is holding something HEAVY over HIS head during his "testimony". bvar22 Jun 2013 #23

Yeah, that guy can't play poker. n/t Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #30

Let's say we have a jury, and an appeals process.. Motown_Johnny Jun 2013 #29

Let's say you look at this post: Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #33

Hypothetical upon hypothetical upon hypothetical Motown_Johnny Jun 2013 #39

Not a rouge member, but a rogue member, though if he dresses in red, that's fine by me. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #41

It's no use. Some here live in very carefully crafted denial bubbles and fight like hell to rhett o rick Jun 2013 #49

It is a pity. Fantastic Anarchist Jun 2013 #50

I wonder if they MIB'd John Conyers, who had gathered enough information against Bush Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #42

Kicking ... due to this link: Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #61

they went after members of Congress, Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committee Catherina Jul 2013 #62

And the Supreme Court, too. nt Fantastic Anarchist Jul 2013 #63