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SunSeeker

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67. Yes, he did give up secrets. He described how our China surveillance system works.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 04:45 PM
Jun 2013
U.S. intelligence agents have been hacking computer networks around the world for years, apparently targeting fat data pipes that push immense amounts of data around the Internet, NSA leaker Edward Snowden told the South China Morning Post on Wednesday.

Among some 61,000 reported targets of the National Security Agency, Snowden said, are hundreds of computers in China -- which U.S. officials have increasingly criticized as the source of thousands of attacks on U.S. military and commercial networks. China has denied such attacks.

The Morning Post said it had seen documents provided by Snowden but was unable to verify their authenticity. The English-language news agency, which operates in Hong Kong, also said it was unable to independently verify allegations of U.S. hacking of networks in Hong Kong and mainland China since 2009.

Snowden told the paper that some of the targets included the Chinese University of Hong Kong, public officials and students. The documents also "point to hacking activity by the NSA against mainland targets," the newspaper reported.

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In the Morning Post interview -- published one week after the British newspaper The Guardian revealed the first leaks attributed to Snowden -- he claimed the agency he once worked for as a contractor typically targets high-bandwidth data lines that connect Internet nodes located around the world.

"We hack network backbones -- like huge Internet routers, basically -- that give us access to the communications of hundreds of thousands of computers without having to hack every single one," the newspaper quoted him as saying.

A "backbone" is part of the inner workings of a computer network that links different parts of that network. It is used to deliver data from one part of the network to another and, as such, could expose data from multiple computers if hacked.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/12/politics/nsa-leak/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Maybe the Chinese knew this, but even it they did, he helped them in their propaganda war against the US by publicly confirming it--RIGHT when the Chinese were negotiating with the US over stopping pretty outrageous Chinese hacking--everything from industrial espionage that hurts our industries, to listening in on the Obama and McCain campaigns.

The NSA has been spying on Americans since its inception in the 1950s. I recommend The Puzzle Palace; a decades old book that gives a chilling history of the NSA--and demonstrates that NO ONE should be surprised by what is going on now at the NSA.

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Bernie Autumn Jun 2013 #1
Bada bing! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #2
According to ProSense, the article Bernie endorses goes on to caution that some spying may be ok Leopolds Ghost Jun 2013 #64
Correct. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #3
Ditto Assange and Manning. snot Jun 2013 #42
Right. But it's also good to support those who take personal risk to reveal gov't abuses. limpyhobbler Jun 2013 #4
He may turn out to be despicable, Curmudgeoness Jun 2013 #13
This is not Senator Sanders. It's Ron Fournier. ProSense Jun 2013 #5
Obviously Sen Sanders agreed with it and posted it on his Senate website. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #17
Maybe, but ProSense Jun 2013 #23
That's the best you can do? Fuddnik Jun 2013 #24
Are you laughing because you have no counter? ProSense Jun 2013 #26
I'd like to know if Sanders took the intel briefings, like Franken did? MADem Jun 2013 #54
Its a lot better than what you've come up with madokie Jun 2013 #27
I don't care whether Sanders or anyone else agrees with it. There is only ONE ISSUE here no matter sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #28
No, ProSense Jun 2013 #30
.. NorthCarolina Jun 2013 #31
"I don't care whether Sanders or anyone else agrees with it." ProSense Jun 2013 #32
It matters to me who said it, fwiw. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #48
Is that an NSA talking point? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #77
And would Bernie agree with the suggestion that Obama is smearing Snowden to "deflect attention"? SunSeeker Jun 2013 #34
But, it does sound like mediahackwhore, Ron Fournier Cha Jun 2013 #40
Nothing in the article says Snowden gave any marions ghost Jun 2013 #50
Yes, he did give up secrets. He described how our China surveillance system works. SunSeeker Jun 2013 #67
The way I see it marions ghost Jun 2013 #68
"Everybody knows this regardless of what Snowden has said." SunSeeker Jun 2013 #69
Absolutely bang on. nt snagglepuss Jun 2013 #72
We agree marions ghost Jun 2013 #75
Barack Obama is the biggest Bush apologist. OnyxCollie Jun 2013 #41
ROFLMAO!! Your defense of the abuses by this administartion is bordering on lunacy bowens43 Jun 2013 #76
It still strikes at the heart of the matter. NT quakerboy Jun 2013 #19
Thanks for the clarification, Pro. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #47
BINGO Skittles Jun 2013 #6
Thank you! GoneOffShore Jun 2013 #7
It's the wrong question all right but I still care about Edward Snowden Catherina Jun 2013 #8
Well said, Catherina. Sometimes I think this country is completely lost. The American people sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #29
Zero, zilch, nada! Catherina Jun 2013 #38
Al Franken surprised me. Maedhros Jun 2013 #60
You got it. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #44
Interesting point. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #49
^^^^This^^^^ snagglepuss Jun 2013 #73
Exactly, Catarina. RILib Jun 2013 #53
Well said. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #57
I don't understand the mentality that if only we crush Snowden enough... BlueCheese Jun 2013 #9
Yup! BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #10
Exactly! Canuckistanian Jun 2013 #20
^^this^^ Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #66
+1 snagglepuss Jun 2013 #74
eh. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #11
Bullseye!! Myrina Jun 2013 #12
THANK YOU !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #14
Kick LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #15
Bernie hits a home run.....again. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #16
Bernie Sanders has obviously been brainwashed by Glenn Greenwald East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #18
I feel I am among my people now. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2013 #21
K&R LWolf Jun 2013 #22
Yes - Bernie On Point And Focused cantbeserious Jun 2013 #25
K&R forestpath Jun 2013 #33
Same thing I've been saying on DU for days. morningfog Jun 2013 #35
I think the most important question now thucythucy Jun 2013 #36
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Thanks for posting this here. Bernie's one of the few whose intentions I trust anymore Catherina Jun 2013 #39
Great. Now Hong Kong Bernie is deflecting this back on Obama. Dr Fate Jun 2013 #43
Almost as good as Third Way Manny LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #55
The depends on your definition of "our" SomethingFishy Jun 2013 #71
Good questions. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Jun 2013 #45
Once again Bernie is the voice of reason. faithnomore Jun 2013 #46
Exactly right. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #51
I disagree. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #52
It's an ad hominem attack, is all. Standard RW attactics. grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #56
As usual, Bernie gets it right lark Jun 2013 #58
It is a disturbing trend in our political culture. Maedhros Jun 2013 #61
Senator Sanders is right, what the real scandal is the breadth of the data collection on AMS. CarmanK Jun 2013 #59
That and the way they deliberately outsourced it to private corporations Catherina Jun 2013 #62
Senator Bernie Sanders.... LovingA2andMI Jun 2013 #63
k&r Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #65
Hammer meets nail. marmar Jun 2013 #70
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