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defacto7

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34. Understood... I wasn't discussing download vulnerabilities.
Thu Jun 13, 2013, 05:17 PM
Jun 2013

The OP states that the FBI can secretly do things with your cell phone or whatever.

I am not disagreeing with the fact that the FBI or other governmental bodies can do such things... but I am saying anyone can do it... anyone can download the software and anyone can use it without the victims knowledge and it's old tech due to vulnerabilities in the hardware. Go after the hardware manufacturers if you want security.

Honestly, I would be more worried about China since they are the intruders I deal with almost daily, and in that lies the a realistic worry where availability of meta-data is concerned. If the holders of large quantities of meta-data were compromised, it could be a very nasty thing. That does not mean I am not concerned about the US doing the snooping, but I am worried at a different level in that meta-data is being spread around making it more hackable.

BTW-2, I have had my mail servers approached by the FBI and their corporate sidekicks and I did trace their antics to a Florida office. My servers were not rerouted without my knowledge, but on a personal level I am simply reporting that it is happening.



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FBI usage would just be a start. Out of jealousy, local cops will ultimately want to do this as well AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #1
I know a cop who used this method to catch his wife cheating (n/t) dorkzilla Jun 2013 #9
Hackers (Not Government) can turn your laptop into a spycam JaneQPublic Jun 2013 #2
A school loaned out computers and turned on the cameras and microphones to see what the students MADem Jun 2013 #3
I remember that.....don't talk in your cars either...OnStar ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #10
Why does this keep coming up? defacto7 Jun 2013 #4
this is not about downloading, but your providers ability to do "silent" updates Monkie Jun 2013 #19
Understood... I wasn't discussing download vulnerabilities. defacto7 Jun 2013 #34
Seems they would have to treat Control-Z Jun 2013 #5
no your phone doesn't have to be "set up" ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #8
How do you connect to it without setting it up? East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #16
your provider, or a government, can "push" "silent" updates to your phone Monkie Jun 2013 #18
Would that take a warrent or is "probable cause" now good enough? East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #23
this is beyond wire tapping this is bugging ThomThom Jun 2013 #15
Would that be bad Control-Z Jun 2013 #35
just a fact ThomThom Jun 2013 #36
"roving bugging" ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #37
Just think what they'd get if they turned on Mith NcConnels phone ashling Jun 2013 #6
I read about this in Wired years ago...remove your battery to prevent eavesdroppinhg ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #7
On an Iphone? quakerboy Jun 2013 #11
They sell RF shielded cell phone pouches PuffedMica Jun 2013 #13
All the more reason not to get one. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #20
Also prevents usefulness. GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #14
Given that the cellphone is in the room with you quaker bill Jun 2013 #12
And you live alone and don't talk to yourself. DCKit Jun 2013 #32
Glad we live in a country where that requires a warrant, aren't you? (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #17
Do they charge you for roaming? Orrex Jun 2013 #21
No, kentauros Jun 2013 #29
Well played! Orrex Jun 2013 #31
Smoke 'em if you got 'em... kentuck Jun 2013 #22
i'd kinda like it if some government dick listened to me sing nonsense songs about testicles datasuspect Jun 2013 #24
We pay them good. kentuck Jun 2013 #25
Lmao!! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #26
Which is why real criminals use temprary cell-phones..... cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #27
The answer to this problem is obvious: kentauros Jun 2013 #28
now that made me laugh..ty ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #38
YOu're welcome :) kentauros Jun 2013 #40
Fat lot of good it would do them with me dipsydoodle Jun 2013 #30
The tecnology that dotymed Jun 2013 #33
and THAT can hardly be a secret in China where all the phones are made KurtNYC Jun 2013 #39
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