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Showing Original Post only (View all)Guardian "walked back the 'direct access' claim made in Greenwald’s original article" [View all]
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UPDATE: A new article posted at the Guardian by Charles Arthur and Dominic Rushe walked back the direct access claim made in Greenwalds original article and confirmed the FTP/Dropbox theory.
Anyone who uses an FTP server knows that this is a far cry from direct access to the entire contents of a server. But now, to paraphrase a popular quotation, the hyperbolic misleading interpretation used by Greenwald has been around the world a few times now that the reality of the technology finally got its pants on. The question remains, however, whether Greenwald was deliberately vague, or whether he didnt bother to attain more clarification on this point from his IT expert source.
http://thedailybanter.com/2013/06/greenwald-sticks-with-his-story-in-spite-of-growing-questions/
UPDATE: A new article posted at the Guardian by Charles Arthur and Dominic Rushe walked back the direct access claim made in Greenwalds original article and confirmed the FTP/Dropbox theory.
The Guardian understands that the NSA approached those companies and asked them to enable a dropbox system whereby legally requested data could be copied from their own server out to an NSA-owned system. That has allowed the companies to deny that there is direct or indirect NSA access, to deny that there is a back door to their systems, and that they only comply with legal requests while not explaining the scope of that access.
Anyone who uses an FTP server knows that this is a far cry from direct access to the entire contents of a server. But now, to paraphrase a popular quotation, the hyperbolic misleading interpretation used by Greenwald has been around the world a few times now that the reality of the technology finally got its pants on. The question remains, however, whether Greenwald was deliberately vague, or whether he didnt bother to attain more clarification on this point from his IT expert source.
http://thedailybanter.com/2013/06/greenwald-sticks-with-his-story-in-spite-of-growing-questions/
The hyperbole got ahead of the technology.
Report: Snowden Stored Documents On Thumb Drive
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023010060
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Guardian "walked back the 'direct access' claim made in Greenwald’s original article" [View all]
ProSense
Jun 2013
OP
"whether Greenwald was deliberately vague, or whether he didn’t bother to attain more.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#1
so the "direct access to servers" claim is bogus. What else is bogus? n/t
IllinoisBirdWatcher
Jun 2013
#2
I normally lurk and don't post often, but in this case the early sensationalizing (on many sides)
IllinoisBirdWatcher
Jun 2013
#85
Take it up with the NSA because it was their claim, not the Guardian's.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#31
Instead of trying to needle me with sad little emo high-schooler one-liners, how about you
Occulus
Jun 2013
#36
in a discussion relating to secret interpretations of laws relating to the surveillance of millions
Monkie
Jun 2013
#43
sloppy technology reporting, yes. lack of understanding of how "sandboxing" data works
galileoreloaded
Jun 2013
#80
Nope, they didn't. The original reporting was correct... from the same Guadian article.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#27
Then take it up with the NSA. And this is the organization that we are supposed to
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#38
you want Greenwald not to be a liar so damned bad. but you're going to be disappointed.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#58
I think Greenwald's trip to Hong Kong was probably to ask Snowden, "What the hell?!"
randome
Jun 2013
#29
So you're saying you don't know enough about computers to take part in this conversation
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#93
I know that Greenwald is a bit exorcised over journalistic malfeasance these days.
OilemFirchen
Jun 2013
#56
The Truth was just not big enough news for Glen Greenwald. So he made it be.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#57
It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference how they transferred the information unless
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#81
Yes, that's a significant part of the question - how much data was transferred
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#95