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In reply to the discussion: Guardian "walked back the 'direct access' claim made in Greenwald’s original article" [View all]Monkie
(1,301 posts)7. do you know anything about technology?
it IS possible to set up a FTP server to give direct access to anything, across multiple machines if necessary, and correct me if im wrong, but the direct access claim was based on the PRISM slides themselves?
did you even read what you are quoting? you seem so busy trying to find excuses to go lalalala im wondering if you did?
That has allowed the companies to deny that there is direct or indirect NSA access, to deny that there is a back door to their systems, and that they only comply with legal requests while not explaining the scope of that access.
this has allowed the companies to deny, this is NOT the same as proof? please consider the fact that if these companies are cooperating with the NSA and others, what makes you think the companies are allowed to be truthful, it would break the same laws you are so upset snowdon broke.
the guardian is reporting what the companies say, how is this the same as walked back? and even if they do correct a detail, what has that to do with the main point in all this?
obama has now admitted these programs exist.
there is bipartisan support for the fact there is over-reach
clapper has been caught out lying because of these leaks
and most recently mueller has been caught out lying.
but go ahead, keep grasping at straws, maybe you will find something that will convince you and stop the fear that seems to be driving you in your quest to deny anything is wrong.
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Guardian "walked back the 'direct access' claim made in Greenwald’s original article" [View all]
ProSense
Jun 2013
OP
"whether Greenwald was deliberately vague, or whether he didn’t bother to attain more.....
Tarheel_Dem
Jun 2013
#1
so the "direct access to servers" claim is bogus. What else is bogus? n/t
IllinoisBirdWatcher
Jun 2013
#2
I normally lurk and don't post often, but in this case the early sensationalizing (on many sides)
IllinoisBirdWatcher
Jun 2013
#85
Take it up with the NSA because it was their claim, not the Guardian's.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#31
Instead of trying to needle me with sad little emo high-schooler one-liners, how about you
Occulus
Jun 2013
#36
in a discussion relating to secret interpretations of laws relating to the surveillance of millions
Monkie
Jun 2013
#43
sloppy technology reporting, yes. lack of understanding of how "sandboxing" data works
galileoreloaded
Jun 2013
#80
Nope, they didn't. The original reporting was correct... from the same Guadian article.
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#27
Then take it up with the NSA. And this is the organization that we are supposed to
Luminous Animal
Jun 2013
#38
you want Greenwald not to be a liar so damned bad. but you're going to be disappointed.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#58
I think Greenwald's trip to Hong Kong was probably to ask Snowden, "What the hell?!"
randome
Jun 2013
#29
So you're saying you don't know enough about computers to take part in this conversation
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#93
I know that Greenwald is a bit exorcised over journalistic malfeasance these days.
OilemFirchen
Jun 2013
#56
The Truth was just not big enough news for Glen Greenwald. So he made it be.
MjolnirTime
Jun 2013
#57
It doesn't make the slightest bit of difference how they transferred the information unless
GoneFishin
Jun 2013
#81
Yes, that's a significant part of the question - how much data was transferred
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#95