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pnwmom

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34. No, it wasn't. Just phone numbers and number of minutes.

Thu Jun 13, 2013, 07:55 PM

Jun 2013

If the government wanted more information, such as a wiretap, they'd have to go to the judge with probable cause and get a warrant.

And this collection of phone numbers was debated in public when the Patriot Act was passed, which you'd know if you'd been paying attention. It was no secret.

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Snowden smuggled out THOUSANDS of documents on a thumb drive. [View all] pnwmom Jun 2013 OP

How ironic Bonobo Jun 2013 #1

The Patriot Act was passed in public, not secretly, and it has never been a secret pnwmom Jun 2013 #4

"unidentified phone numbers" Bonobo Jun 2013 #7

No, it wasn't. Just phone numbers and number of minutes. pnwmom Jun 2013 #34

My my denial much? Most of the USPA is enacted IN SECRET nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #22

we don't cotton to USAPATRIOT around here.. frylock Jun 2013 #31

I'm not trying to justify the Patriot Act. I'm saying that there was plenty of debate pnwmom Jun 2013 #37

LOL ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #33

Not entirely the NSA's fault. Snowden was sneaky. randome Jun 2013 #2

I'd say he sacrificed enough for his country, then. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2013 #29

Awethumb pinboy3niner Jun 2013 #35

LOL -- a thumb drive up his ass Blue Owl Jun 2013 #61

They're lucky he wasn't recruited by Iran or Al Qaeda. geek tragedy Jun 2013 #3

He was a systems administrator and, as such, knew about the systems in place pnwmom Jun 2013 #6

"I know nothing about computers" Aerows Jun 2013 #16

How about a civil response to your comment? CakeGrrl Jun 2013 #28

Lax security Aerows Jun 2013 #30

Exactly Aerows Jun 2013 #19

Um, thumb drives are forbidden on sensitive computers NightWatcher Jun 2013 #5

Booz probably used regular PCs FarCenter Jun 2013 #10

This is the private sector you're talking about railsback Jun 2013 #11

I worked for a contractor and there were no USB sockets on mine NightWatcher Jun 2013 #12

It's irrelevant if there are USB ports or not Aerows Jun 2013 #17

Most of them are disabled..so he took 4 laptops too HipChick Jun 2013 #20

I said conscientious administrators Aerows Jun 2013 #21

But he was an administrator. So was he supposed to protect the system from himself? pnwmom Jun 2013 #36

It works excellently when people have a clue Aerows Jun 2013 #38

I wondered about that, too. And you usually have no printers available, either. So how come Nay Jun 2013 #64

And even if they are there Aerows Jun 2013 #26

This information is now going to China. Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #8

Going? It is already there. FSogol Jun 2013 #13

True. n/t Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #14

A Chinese agent with a Top Secret clearance inside Downwinder Jun 2013 #23

They better roll Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #24

trivial! compared to acceptance of egg on face Whisp Jun 2013 #15

If he were a paid Chinese agent... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #47

Extortion railsback Jun 2013 #9

Well, we've been assured that the spying done on American people is harmless and inconsequential. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #18

Think! He's threatening the lives of CIA agents in China. DevonRex Jun 2013 #25

Why would he care? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #27

This is his pretend bargaining chip for those DevonRex Jun 2013 #39

Got that. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #43

Sounds like a helluva good reason to get the CIA out of China. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #45

He can't know DevonRex Jun 2013 #46

All I have to say Aerows Jun 2013 #32

I'm really concerned about who let him in to begin with. DevonRex Jun 2013 #40

Makes you wonder Aerows Jun 2013 #41

Yep. DevonRex Jun 2013 #44

Actually, you would be surprised Aerows Jun 2013 #48

Hope that didn't horrify anyone Aerows Jun 2013 #49

No DevonRex Jun 2013 #50

Physical Access is always the Aerows Jun 2013 #52

'somebody vouched for him' Whisp Jun 2013 #55

It wouldn't surprise me Aerows Jun 2013 #56

I think he was recruited for DevonRex Jun 2013 #62

I bet the problem is that the people in charge have a minimal understanding of computers pnwmom Jun 2013 #51

It wouldn't suprise me Aerows Jun 2013 #53

Are you in Human Resources and about to Aerows Jun 2013 #54

At the very top, you have military officers. They are very good at things they can see. FarCenter Jun 2013 #58

Sounds like he may have had help BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #42

He needed some help Aerows Jun 2013 #57

K&R Aerows Jun 2013 #59

did he take it with him to Hong Kong ? JI7 Jun 2013 #60

That's what the reports say. Other than hiding it, I don't know how he could prevent pnwmom Jun 2013 #65

So our intelligence agencies cannot even watch people with access to their own information The Straight Story Jun 2013 #63

Recommend! Release it all! morningfog Jun 2013 #66

This is not good at all! This guy is not trustworthy at all. hrmjustin Jun 2013 #67

This is really proof... NCTraveler Jun 2013 #68

I wonder if he's walked off with my half finished novel? sibelian Jun 2013 #69