Are The American People Being Spied On Or Not?

[sabrina 1]

230. Well, they handed them over to Bush without a warrant and nothing happened to any of them.

In fact Congress had their back and got busy rewriting the FISA law, retroactively, to make legal what was illegal when Bush did it. I don't think they have anything to worry about. There is no rule of law here. Who is going to hold them accountable? We didn't hold worse criminals accountable, War Criminals and Wall St Criminals.

However, I was responding mostly to the confusing arguments we are getting for the surveillance of the American people.

We are told they got a warrant. But you can't get a warrant without probable cause, so what did millions of us do that created a probable cause of wrong doing?

We are told that, see my thread, that 'we don't own those records' in which case the telecoms own them. So why would they need a warrant if we don't own them, and if the telecoms have already proven themselves to be so helpful they just hand over stuff to the Govt and get bailed out later if necessary?

Mostly I want to know what I am suspected of being a Verizon customer. Because IF they got a warrant, they had to have a probable cause of wrongdoing.