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58. Sadly...it's getting pretty obvious that Neither PBO nor Congress

Reply to ElsewheresDaughter (Reply #55)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 08:29 AM

Jun 2013

gives a flying fark over whether we support them or not.

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Yay! We'll be arming Al-Qaeda in Syria [View all] cali Jun 2013 OP

Say hello to the new and improved Al Qaeda PuraVidaDreamin Jun 2013 #1

gotta create terrorists to fight and for corporations to make more money from cali Jun 2013 #4

MLK said warrant46 Jun 2013 #35

in your face kick for all those here supporting arming the rebels cali Jun 2013 #2

wow one_voice Jun 2013 #104

The enemy of my enemy is my friend... kentuck Jun 2013 #3

Um... ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #7

you summed that up rather nicely. cali Jun 2013 #8

We did it in Afghanistan sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #34

Awesome analysis warrant46 Jun 2013 #42

^^ This, and then some ^^ Myrina Jun 2013 #77

Shhh.. I'm watching So You Think You Can Dance. . .. .n/t annabanana Jun 2013 #78

Amen! beerandjesus Jun 2013 #85

What Cali said. Excellent summation n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #90

Yep leftstreet Jun 2013 #94

That's... sibelian Jun 2013 #20

Why?? kentuck Jun 2013 #46

... Jesus, dude... sibelian Jun 2013 #49

You have difficulty with facetiousness and sarcasm? kentuck Jun 2013 #53

Ah. sibelian Jun 2013 #59

Dude... that's the utterly wrong-headed thinking that made this mess starting (for us) in the '50s. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #100

I agree with you 100%, behaving rationally and intelligently is soooo over-rated.... penultimate Jun 2013 #101

Not promising, but I hope that Obama's smart enough to know which groups are & aren't Al Qaeda. nt backscatter712 Jun 2013 #5

c'mon. use some sense. there is no way to discern this in the fog of war cali Jun 2013 #6

Like I said, it's not promising. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #24

Or just have them taken from them by the bad ones... penultimate Jun 2013 #102

he didnt in libya, they now have real problems with islamic extremists Monkie Jun 2013 #18

Of course we will, if it's useful to us. Laelth Jun 2013 #9

I think it's more about corporate profits than any enemy cali Jun 2013 #11

In part, certainly. Laelth Jun 2013 #12

Al Qaeda isn't the enemy? They've been trying to attack us since 9/11. Dash87 Jun 2013 #61

Take a look at the essay to which I link in this post. Laelth Jun 2013 #64

My question is; "Why do we need an enemy to function anyway?" RC Jun 2013 #83

We have enemies, whether we like it or not. Laelth Jun 2013 #86

Would we care if we had not been meddling in the Middle East for the last 90 some years? RC Jun 2013 #88

Yes, I think we would care. Laelth Jun 2013 #92

Well said. I don't support any US military action beginning with Korea. mbperrin Jun 2013 #112

A couple of months ago Savannahmann Jun 2013 #10

I don't blame you one slightest little bit. sibelian Jun 2013 #16

I too thought this would happen ----I turn this site off for almost a year warrant46 Jun 2013 #39

I hear you. K&R zeeland Jun 2013 #98

It just boggles my mind Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #13

YAAAAAAAAYYYY!!! sibelian Jun 2013 #14

you just got a strangled chuckle out of me cali Jun 2013 #15

I think I might be going a bit funny. sibelian Jun 2013 #19

that will make up for killing bin Laden Enrique Jun 2013 #17

One could rightly refer to it as America's "apology gift" to al Qaeda. David__77 Jun 2013 #29

It seems a grand folly to anyone who has paid attention to history for the last 500 years. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #21

more like a squalid little folly to me. cali Jun 2013 #23

This is a huge mistake leftynyc Jun 2013 #22

Letting Hezbollah win is better? Recursion Jun 2013 #28

staying out is better. just for once. cali Jun 2013 #32

Right, that's supporting Hezbollah Recursion Jun 2013 #33

what if hezbollah did "win"? what does that entail? what does it look like? cali Jun 2013 #36

It's as murky as the rebels' "winning" is Recursion Jun 2013 #40

Don't bother railsback Jun 2013 #109

George Bush coined "Bad Guys/Good Guys" as our new Foreign Policy... KoKo Jun 2013 #51

So I'm coining "bad guys/bad guys", then (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #54

If you're not with us you're with the terrorists! Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #71

In all honesty leftynyc Jun 2013 #47

I feel the same way Aerows Jun 2013 #69

Yes, because they're at least somewhat reasonable Dash87 Jun 2013 #60

It probably is, I think.. penultimate Jun 2013 #103

Oh goodness gracious, what could possibly go wrong? progressoid Jun 2013 #25

The arms industry has no political loyalty. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #26

They want to make debt, then make the money off of the debt. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #80

And if we don't arm them, we're helping Hezbollah Recursion Jun 2013 #27

Yeah, but... TommyCelt Jun 2013 #41

A different group than we'll create by embargoing them Recursion Jun 2013 #45

Hezbollah... TommyCelt Jun 2013 #70

We are under no obligation to get involved in this mess. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #105

Thank you, and you're right. mbperrin Jun 2013 #113

Will the hawks on either side of the aisle learn... TommyCelt Jun 2013 #30

"just so long as the checks clear" datasuspect Jun 2013 #31

Afghanistan reset get the red out Jun 2013 #37

During the first Gulf War, who was the wag that said if Kuwait's main export was broccoli Rozlee Jun 2013 #84

Lot's of lunatics sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #38

If we don't arm them, we won't have any enemies to fight later. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #43

Given that the MIC and Private Military/ Security Contractors provide KoKo Jun 2013 #57

Stupid is... ReRe Jun 2013 #44

When it comes ctsnowman Jun 2013 #48

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As usual, the real terrorists win - the military industrial mbperrin Jun 2013 #52

And they're the ones collecting our metadata. dgibby Jun 2013 #108

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if President Obama does this ....I am done with him. ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #55

Sadly...it's getting pretty obvious that Neither PBO nor Congress KoKo Jun 2013 #58

It's done. cali Jun 2013 #62

then all Hope is gone ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #67

Obama doesn't deserve the blame for this, imo. Laelth Jun 2013 #66

I agree that the pressure was enormous, but in the end he's responsible for making this decison cali Jun 2013 #68

Just like the "brave and oppressed mujahideen fighters" in Afghanistan. Dash87 Jun 2013 #56

you heaven05 Jun 2013 #63

As was said libdude Jun 2013 #65

So you support a bloodthirsty dictator relayerbob Jun 2013 #72

right. of course I support a bloodthirsty dictator, just like YOU support murderous, cannibal rebels cali Jun 2013 #75

Burying one's head in the sand ... relayerbob Jun 2013 #111

It's called the "cycle-of-terror". We support terrorists so they can fight against their dictator. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #73

+1 woo me with science Jun 2013 #93

Anything to keep the American military-industrial complex moving forward AndyA Jun 2013 #74

We were against them before we were for them ... or, wait ... Myrina Jun 2013 #76

12 years of anti-Al-Qaeda hysteria end with us arming them markiv Jun 2013 #79

they defend tapping our phones and helping al-qaeda in the same week markiv Jun 2013 #81

Looks like we need to send Rumsfeld on another Mission bahrbearian Jun 2013 #82

Send McCain MelungeonWoman Jun 2013 #114

Perhaps the objective is to prolong, so that the maximum number of jihadis kill each other FarCenter Jun 2013 #87

You must have meant "freedom fighters" when you said "Al-Qaeda"... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #89

Well, we armed them in Libya. Old habits die hard, we created and armed them in Afghanistan. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #91

"Bring it on!" "Smoke 'em out!" "Mission Accomplished!" "USA! USA!" Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #95

Just let McCain go over there on his own Rex Jun 2013 #96

Does "Charlie Wilson's War" ring a bell. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #97

Well, we created OBL and milked that for 20 years or so. But the amorphous bogey-man of Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #99

Most of the opposition to Assad is not al-Queda, but pampango Jun 2013 #106

Of course that's true, but we will inevitably end up arming al-qaeda. cali Jun 2013 #107

This is true, MOST are not Al Qaeda railsback Jun 2013 #110

Question 1: where did they get intel for that map from? idwiyo Jun 2013 #115

The graphic isn't right. David__77 Jun 2013 #116