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heaven05

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Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:37 AM

Jun 2013

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know I remember when I was growing up, the derision french politics got for backing this or that different countries politics, oh the comments of how whorish french politics were because they went with anyone that furthered their agenda. Well starting with the debacle of installing the shah of iran, pahlavi, after mosaddegh threatened 'the oil' with nationalization right after the ww2 overthrow of the shah's father, we've been like the french. Guess who backed the overthrow? One guess. Many dictators backed by us in viet nam, we all know how that turned out. Many central american dictator backing 'mistakes'. Allende types in south america. Banana republic invasions in the name of united fruit company, oh the list goes on and on. Hell, we backed bin laden during the soviet invasion of afghanistan!!!!!!! Iraq the latest and now this. Whorish to say the least.

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Yay! We'll be arming Al-Qaeda in Syria [View all] cali Jun 2013 OP

Say hello to the new and improved Al Qaeda PuraVidaDreamin Jun 2013 #1

gotta create terrorists to fight and for corporations to make more money from cali Jun 2013 #4

MLK said warrant46 Jun 2013 #35

in your face kick for all those here supporting arming the rebels cali Jun 2013 #2

wow one_voice Jun 2013 #104

The enemy of my enemy is my friend... kentuck Jun 2013 #3

Um... ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #7

you summed that up rather nicely. cali Jun 2013 #8

We did it in Afghanistan sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #34

Awesome analysis warrant46 Jun 2013 #42

^^ This, and then some ^^ Myrina Jun 2013 #77

Shhh.. I'm watching So You Think You Can Dance. . .. .n/t annabanana Jun 2013 #78

Amen! beerandjesus Jun 2013 #85

What Cali said. Excellent summation n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #90

Yep leftstreet Jun 2013 #94

That's... sibelian Jun 2013 #20

Why?? kentuck Jun 2013 #46

... Jesus, dude... sibelian Jun 2013 #49

You have difficulty with facetiousness and sarcasm? kentuck Jun 2013 #53

Ah. sibelian Jun 2013 #59

Dude... that's the utterly wrong-headed thinking that made this mess starting (for us) in the '50s. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #100

I agree with you 100%, behaving rationally and intelligently is soooo over-rated.... penultimate Jun 2013 #101

Not promising, but I hope that Obama's smart enough to know which groups are & aren't Al Qaeda. nt backscatter712 Jun 2013 #5

c'mon. use some sense. there is no way to discern this in the fog of war cali Jun 2013 #6

Like I said, it's not promising. n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #24

Or just have them taken from them by the bad ones... penultimate Jun 2013 #102

he didnt in libya, they now have real problems with islamic extremists Monkie Jun 2013 #18

Of course we will, if it's useful to us. Laelth Jun 2013 #9

I think it's more about corporate profits than any enemy cali Jun 2013 #11

In part, certainly. Laelth Jun 2013 #12

Al Qaeda isn't the enemy? They've been trying to attack us since 9/11. Dash87 Jun 2013 #61

Take a look at the essay to which I link in this post. Laelth Jun 2013 #64

My question is; "Why do we need an enemy to function anyway?" RC Jun 2013 #83

We have enemies, whether we like it or not. Laelth Jun 2013 #86

Would we care if we had not been meddling in the Middle East for the last 90 some years? RC Jun 2013 #88

Yes, I think we would care. Laelth Jun 2013 #92

Well said. I don't support any US military action beginning with Korea. mbperrin Jun 2013 #112

A couple of months ago Savannahmann Jun 2013 #10

I don't blame you one slightest little bit. sibelian Jun 2013 #16

I too thought this would happen ----I turn this site off for almost a year warrant46 Jun 2013 #39

I hear you. K&R zeeland Jun 2013 #98

It just boggles my mind Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #13

YAAAAAAAAYYYY!!! sibelian Jun 2013 #14

you just got a strangled chuckle out of me cali Jun 2013 #15

I think I might be going a bit funny. sibelian Jun 2013 #19

that will make up for killing bin Laden Enrique Jun 2013 #17

One could rightly refer to it as America's "apology gift" to al Qaeda. David__77 Jun 2013 #29

It seems a grand folly to anyone who has paid attention to history for the last 500 years. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #21

more like a squalid little folly to me. cali Jun 2013 #23

This is a huge mistake leftynyc Jun 2013 #22

Letting Hezbollah win is better? Recursion Jun 2013 #28

staying out is better. just for once. cali Jun 2013 #32

Right, that's supporting Hezbollah Recursion Jun 2013 #33

what if hezbollah did "win"? what does that entail? what does it look like? cali Jun 2013 #36

It's as murky as the rebels' "winning" is Recursion Jun 2013 #40

Don't bother railsback Jun 2013 #109

George Bush coined "Bad Guys/Good Guys" as our new Foreign Policy... KoKo Jun 2013 #51

So I'm coining "bad guys/bad guys", then (nt) Recursion Jun 2013 #54

If you're not with us you're with the terrorists! Romulus Quirinus Jun 2013 #71

In all honesty leftynyc Jun 2013 #47

I feel the same way Aerows Jun 2013 #69

Yes, because they're at least somewhat reasonable Dash87 Jun 2013 #60

It probably is, I think.. penultimate Jun 2013 #103

Oh goodness gracious, what could possibly go wrong? progressoid Jun 2013 #25

The arms industry has no political loyalty. LuvNewcastle Jun 2013 #26

They want to make debt, then make the money off of the debt. Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #80

And if we don't arm them, we're helping Hezbollah Recursion Jun 2013 #27

Yeah, but... TommyCelt Jun 2013 #41

A different group than we'll create by embargoing them Recursion Jun 2013 #45

Hezbollah... TommyCelt Jun 2013 #70

We are under no obligation to get involved in this mess. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #105

Thank you, and you're right. mbperrin Jun 2013 #113

Will the hawks on either side of the aisle learn... TommyCelt Jun 2013 #30

"just so long as the checks clear" datasuspect Jun 2013 #31

Afghanistan reset get the red out Jun 2013 #37

During the first Gulf War, who was the wag that said if Kuwait's main export was broccoli Rozlee Jun 2013 #84

Lot's of lunatics sulphurdunn Jun 2013 #38

If we don't arm them, we won't have any enemies to fight later. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #43

Given that the MIC and Private Military/ Security Contractors provide KoKo Jun 2013 #57

Stupid is... ReRe Jun 2013 #44

When it comes ctsnowman Jun 2013 #48

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As usual, the real terrorists win - the military industrial mbperrin Jun 2013 #52

And they're the ones collecting our metadata. dgibby Jun 2013 #108

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if President Obama does this ....I am done with him. ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #55

Sadly...it's getting pretty obvious that Neither PBO nor Congress KoKo Jun 2013 #58

It's done. cali Jun 2013 #62

then all Hope is gone ElsewheresDaughter Jun 2013 #67

Obama doesn't deserve the blame for this, imo. Laelth Jun 2013 #66

I agree that the pressure was enormous, but in the end he's responsible for making this decison cali Jun 2013 #68

Just like the "brave and oppressed mujahideen fighters" in Afghanistan. Dash87 Jun 2013 #56

you heaven05 Jun 2013 #63

As was said libdude Jun 2013 #65

So you support a bloodthirsty dictator relayerbob Jun 2013 #72

right. of course I support a bloodthirsty dictator, just like YOU support murderous, cannibal rebels cali Jun 2013 #75

Burying one's head in the sand ... relayerbob Jun 2013 #111

It's called the "cycle-of-terror". We support terrorists so they can fight against their dictator. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #73

+1 woo me with science Jun 2013 #93

Anything to keep the American military-industrial complex moving forward AndyA Jun 2013 #74

We were against them before we were for them ... or, wait ... Myrina Jun 2013 #76

12 years of anti-Al-Qaeda hysteria end with us arming them markiv Jun 2013 #79

they defend tapping our phones and helping al-qaeda in the same week markiv Jun 2013 #81

Looks like we need to send Rumsfeld on another Mission bahrbearian Jun 2013 #82

Send McCain MelungeonWoman Jun 2013 #114

Perhaps the objective is to prolong, so that the maximum number of jihadis kill each other FarCenter Jun 2013 #87

You must have meant "freedom fighters" when you said "Al-Qaeda"... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #89

Well, we armed them in Libya. Old habits die hard, we created and armed them in Afghanistan. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #91

"Bring it on!" "Smoke 'em out!" "Mission Accomplished!" "USA! USA!" Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #95

Just let McCain go over there on his own Rex Jun 2013 #96

Does "Charlie Wilson's War" ring a bell. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #97

Well, we created OBL and milked that for 20 years or so. But the amorphous bogey-man of Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #99

Most of the opposition to Assad is not al-Queda, but pampango Jun 2013 #106

Of course that's true, but we will inevitably end up arming al-qaeda. cali Jun 2013 #107

This is true, MOST are not Al Qaeda railsback Jun 2013 #110

Question 1: where did they get intel for that map from? idwiyo Jun 2013 #115

The graphic isn't right. David__77 Jun 2013 #116