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In reply to the discussion: Police set up roadblocks to 'voluntarily' collect DNA, blood samples from innocent Americans [View all]dixiegrrrrl
(60,161 posts)14. You CAN be swabbed even if no charges are brought.
The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday upheld the use of DNA databases to
collect genetic information from suspects arrested but not yet charged,
without any requirement that officers first show probable cause. The 5-4 ruling overrules a state court determination that Marylands DNA collection law permits unconstitutionally invasive searches.
In the short term, the ruling means that law enforcement officials can collect DNA from anyone accused of a violent crime or burglary and upholds existing DNA collection laws in about 28 states. This DNA stays in a database and can serve as the basis for later accusing people of other, unrelated crimes. As the Maryland Supreme Court pointed out in their ruling, only 16 percent of people arrested for some felonies are eventually convicted, and more than one in four people charged with crimes that are much easier to prosecute are not convicted. This means widespread DNA testing ensnares a whole lot of innocent people. But even those who believe they could never be suspected of a violent crime may not be insulated from testing. Justice Antonin Scalia warns in a dissent joined by three of the courts more liberal justices that the courts reasoning would apply equally to someone accused of any crime or violation at all:
When there comes before us the taking of DNA from an arrestee for a traffic violation, the Court will predictably (and quite rightly) say, We can find no significant difference between this case and King. Make no mistake about it:
As an entirely predictable consequence of todays decision, your DNA can be taken and entered into a national DNA database if you are ever arrested, rightly or wrongly, and for whatever reason.
collect genetic information from suspects arrested but not yet charged,
without any requirement that officers first show probable cause. The 5-4 ruling overrules a state court determination that Marylands DNA collection law permits unconstitutionally invasive searches.
In the short term, the ruling means that law enforcement officials can collect DNA from anyone accused of a violent crime or burglary and upholds existing DNA collection laws in about 28 states. This DNA stays in a database and can serve as the basis for later accusing people of other, unrelated crimes. As the Maryland Supreme Court pointed out in their ruling, only 16 percent of people arrested for some felonies are eventually convicted, and more than one in four people charged with crimes that are much easier to prosecute are not convicted. This means widespread DNA testing ensnares a whole lot of innocent people. But even those who believe they could never be suspected of a violent crime may not be insulated from testing. Justice Antonin Scalia warns in a dissent joined by three of the courts more liberal justices that the courts reasoning would apply equally to someone accused of any crime or violation at all:
When there comes before us the taking of DNA from an arrestee for a traffic violation, the Court will predictably (and quite rightly) say, We can find no significant difference between this case and King. Make no mistake about it:
As an entirely predictable consequence of todays decision, your DNA can be taken and entered into a national DNA database if you are ever arrested, rightly or wrongly, and for whatever reason.
Story date is 11 days ago....
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/06/03/2091741/the-police-can-now-access-your-dna-without-a-warrant-even-when-you-cant-access-it-at-all/?mobile=
Notice you can be arrested but not charged...so cops can grab you, put you under arrest, swab you, then not charge you, and let you go.Even for littering, failing to signal a turn, any reason they can think of.
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Police set up roadblocks to 'voluntarily' collect DNA, blood samples from innocent Americans [View all]
L0oniX
Jun 2013
OP
Misleading, but still disturbing. This is voluntary, it's research, looking at blood alcohol levels
NYC_SKP
Jun 2013
#3
The idea is that you can be compelled to take a breathalizer test without being arrested...
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#5
Your own words indicate you have zero clue where rights come from in this country.
Sirveri
Jun 2013
#71
While the "pic" may be from NN there are plenty of backup links in this thread as well as more than
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#63
The breathalyser test will contain your DNA when you blow a .07 or anything below the legal limit.
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#26
It ain't like a cop who wants to test you will be serving tea and donuts. They will have the usual
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#28
Thanks - we can't take anything Natural News says as true; they are RW loonies
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#11
I think the idea is that if you can be compelled to take a Breathalyzer test with out an arrest...
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#13
That's why I'd like a description of what they actually did, in this case
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#77
"Candid Camera" illustrated the passivity of "the sheeple" for decades.
woo me with science
Jun 2013
#20
If they really want to find out who the sheep are, they can stop traffic and give TSA-type feel ups.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#34
I just found a DU thread where this organization pulled a similar stunt in 2007.
Snarkoleptic
Jun 2013
#40
I see the DU2 thread linked to worldnutdaily, so I've found a better link with details.
Snarkoleptic
Jun 2013
#47
Has anyone informed Mayor I've-got-my-own-army Bloomberg? He could get behind this.
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#42
His army may be too busy snapping pictures of all the topless women flooding the streets of NY.
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#43
No one is DNA testing for alcohol. Ever blow into a breathalizer? Where do your lips go?
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#51
So a 250 lb cop approches you in your car and asks you to volunteer for a swab. You say no.
L0oniX
Jun 2013
#53
"Let's see what we can get away with. Whatever they don't fight, stays forever."
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#78