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Showing Original Post only (View all)Update to Greenwald's latest cites NYT article on Yahoo challenge to PRISM [View all]
Greenwald's update:
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UPDATE
The New York Times reports today that Yahoo went to court in order to vehemently resist the NSA's directive that they join the PRISM program, and joined only when the court compelled it to do so. The company specifically "argued that the order violated its users' Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures."
If, as NSA (and Silicon Valley) defenders claim, PRISM is nothing more than a harmless little drop-box mechanism for delivering to the government what these companies were already providing, why would Yahoo possibly be in court so vigorously resisting it and arguing that it violates their users' Fourth Amendment rights? Similarly, how could it possibly be said - as US government officials have - that PRISM has been instrumental in stopping terrorist plots if it did not enhance the NSA's collection capabilities? The denials from the internet companies make little sense when compared to what we know about the program. At the very least, there is ample reason to demand more disclosure and transparency about exactly what this is and what data-access arrangements they have agreed to.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/14/nsa-partisanship-propaganda-prism
UPDATE
The New York Times reports today that Yahoo went to court in order to vehemently resist the NSA's directive that they join the PRISM program, and joined only when the court compelled it to do so. The company specifically "argued that the order violated its users' Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable searches and seizures."
If, as NSA (and Silicon Valley) defenders claim, PRISM is nothing more than a harmless little drop-box mechanism for delivering to the government what these companies were already providing, why would Yahoo possibly be in court so vigorously resisting it and arguing that it violates their users' Fourth Amendment rights? Similarly, how could it possibly be said - as US government officials have - that PRISM has been instrumental in stopping terrorist plots if it did not enhance the NSA's collection capabilities? The denials from the internet companies make little sense when compared to what we know about the program. At the very least, there is ample reason to demand more disclosure and transparency about exactly what this is and what data-access arrangements they have agreed to.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/14/nsa-partisanship-propaganda-prism
So because Yahoo challenged the request, means the BS story about direct acess is true? When did the Fourth Amendment apply to foreign targets?
Glenn Greenwald's 'Epic Botch'?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023012813
From the NYT report:
SAN FRANCISCO In a secret court in Washington, Yahoos top lawyers made their case. The government had sought help in spying on certain foreign users, without a warrant, and Yahoo had refused, saying the broad requests were unconstitutional.
The judges disagreed. That left Yahoo two choices: Hand over the data or break the law.
The judges disagreed. That left Yahoo two choices: Hand over the data or break the law.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023015163
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Update to Greenwald's latest cites NYT article on Yahoo challenge to PRISM [View all]
ProSense
Jun 2013
OP
"Pro has done a superb job the last few posts of accidentally backing up Greenwald and Snowden."
ProSense
Jun 2013
#10
Did Greenwald mention "sovereignty" or did he cite the "Fourth Amendment"? n/t
ProSense
Jun 2013
#13