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133. Tier one is how echellon also worked

Reply to marions ghost (Reply #126)

Fri Jun 14, 2013, 09:46 PM

Jun 2013

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Greenwald's Latest - He is counter punching to great effect! [View all] Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 OP

Let's see if he can counter-punch his way out of prosecution. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #1

I guess it be more efficient if we just start nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #3

Now careful timdog44 Jun 2013 #12

Well, this is the reigning attitude. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #16

I have always enjoyed your posts. Been meaning to say that for a while. Figured now was good. DRoseDARs Jun 2013 #124

Glad it did. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #125

and many here would cheer that on villager Jun 2013 #35

Yup nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #63

I know what you mean villager Jun 2013 #151

Agree, at least we see who the Authoritarians are Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #154

He won't be prosecuted. cali Jun 2013 #4

I tend to agree. It will never see a courtroom. 99th_Monkey Jun 2013 #92

Sometimes it's hard to get a point out of one sentence but let me try. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #8

Read a few more of this guys posts it is all there HangOnKids Jun 2013 #48

1st Amendment Hydra Jun 2013 #9

Can't we really just boil down the Bill of Rights to this? BlueStreak Jun 2013 #32

Not true. caseymoz Jun 2013 #155

Austerity! LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #33

Nah, we can just do a little modification. dairydog91 Jun 2013 #110

Yeah, the hell with all that "free press" stuff... ljm2002 Jun 2013 #13

Wow... How Un-American Are You ??? WillyT Jun 2013 #15

So, you are in favor of a reporter being criminally prosecuted? I thought SlimJimmy Jun 2013 #20

fascist much? n/t RainDog Jun 2013 #27

Thank you. Opinions such as this are the Shield and Sword of our Party. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2013 #65

You misspelled "persecution". n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #118

ThunderDerp WilliamPitt Jun 2013 #130

Beyond ThunderDerp n/t Aerows Jun 2013 #134

There will be no prosecution of Greenwald. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #153

So Sanchez likely didn't go to the previous intelligence briefings and she learned something. randome Jun 2013 #2

You are all over the map on this. On one hand you try to assure us that the NSA rhett o rick Jun 2013 #10

The two intelligence subcommittes are kept fully informed. randome Jun 2013 #23

You cant have it both ways. You cant mock Congress with a statement like: rhett o rick Jun 2013 #28

The worst thing is this. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #36

You bring up a great point. We have no idea how much or how little influence the rhett o rick Jun 2013 #42

Congress as represented by the two intelligence subcommittees. randome Jun 2013 #38

I believe they are very limited as to what they can tell Congress. Secrecy and all that, you know. n rhett o rick Jun 2013 #44

You may be right. I'm not sure if there is a better solution. randome Jun 2013 #54

Damn, you got me in a corner. I dont have a better idea. This is going to get very sticky with rhett o rick Jun 2013 #59

You're really dense about this, aren't you Hydra Jun 2013 #40

They're not allowed to talk to me and you about it. randome Jun 2013 #50

So again Hydra Jun 2013 #58

Except that FISC has decided to release that secret ruling. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #72

Oh, you mean this? Hydra Jun 2013 #91

Shoulda said "would not object to release". OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #94

Yup, and at that point we're screwed Hydra Jun 2013 #99

"Fully informed"....... LOL bvar22 Jun 2013 #43

That was a public, televised hearing. randome Jun 2013 #52

He lied. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #68

He LIED to a Senator and to America. bvar22 Jun 2013 #81

Lies are to cover up something more serious than lying. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #96

If you don't have the first clue about WHAT they are "covering up", bvar22 Jun 2013 #113

Your examples are exactly why I think the lies are an attempt to cover up something bigger. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #114

Oops! My bad. bvar22 Jun 2013 #162

hey mr or mrs body language, me again Monkie Jun 2013 #101

Nope, didn't lie AceWheeler Jun 2013 #157

Nope! He outright LIED, bvar22 Jun 2013 #163

Exactly. timdog44 Jun 2013 #17

Guess his post about ProSense Jun 2013 #5

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #6

Very courageous with the truth Catherina Jun 2013 #7

Such a tease. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #77

They loved him when he was going after Bush. And that's why they hate him now, he points out the sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #11

I definitely didn't love Greenwald when he said in his book he agreed with going to war in Iraq stevenleser Jun 2013 #21

That makes no sense. That 2006 book was about the Bush admin and it included scathing criticism. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #34

I think so, yes. He's overcompensating for initially missing it on Iraq. stevenleser Jun 2013 #39

So, 3 books and millions of words against the Bush Admin are because he is overcompensating. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #73

Oh snap! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #105

Why, thank you! Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #106

:-) DeSwiss Jun 2013 #140

!! bobduca Jun 2013 #156

I loved him even more for that. Someone who sincerely cared enough about his country to admit to sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #60

The problem here is that timdog44 Jun 2013 #87

Wrong, so completely wrong I do not know where to start. Hillary Clinton knew about the real sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #139

Even though I know you timdog44 Jun 2013 #145

That was a really lovely post, timdog. I made an OP about this and I'll reproduce it below. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #158

Thank you for that. timdog44 Jun 2013 #159

He supported a narrower ruling. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #160

I can follow the logic he employs. timdog44 Jun 2013 #161

I didn't like him when he agreed with the CITIZENS UNITED ruling. MADem Jun 2013 #80

And another reason timdog44 Jun 2013 #88

He's always sucked because he's always been willing to lie for a story. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #26

Sorry he isn't your BFF anymore HangOnKids Jun 2013 #49

Never caught him in a lie and I've been reading him since he started. He has made mistakes sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #53

Do you have some backing, or does this get filed under "Internet Man Makes Baseless Claim"? DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #74

That cracked me up Aerows Jun 2013 #135

Well said. Sadly there are Democrats that yield to the comforting call of authoritarianism and the rhett o rick Jun 2013 #47

They can't be reasoned out of a belief Maedhros Jun 2013 #95

Sometimes reality is tough to swallow. You cant force it. Whistle-blowers shake up those rhett o rick Jun 2013 #97

for the 80th time, Bush did more treestar Jun 2013 #61

So, what? He's not in office anymore and there is still massive surveillance... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #112

He's ProSense Jun 2013 #64

Well, I agree that neither of them are the story, despite all the efforts to make them the story. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #69

Good question: marions ghost Jun 2013 #14

I wonder timdog44 Jun 2013 #22

Don't know much about you timdog44 marions ghost Jun 2013 #30

You make me cry. I am an emotional man just like my Dad was. timdog44 Jun 2013 #71

LOL, I'd be better as a speechwriter marions ghost Jun 2013 #104

Sound like I better set up an exploratory timdog44 Jun 2013 #116

I'll tell you exactly what they do. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #55

That is the timdog44 Jun 2013 #78

Spot on. It's obscene, but it is the truth. Laelth Jun 2013 #100

I have a cerebrally challenged Congressman. (I call him Rain Man). Fuddnik Jun 2013 #147

And that timdog44 Jun 2013 #152

It would be nice to know if she'd taken advantage of the 19 previous briefings pnwmom Jun 2013 #18

Christopher Boyce said that Snowden is doomed. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #19

There are two separate issues for me. pnwmom Jun 2013 #24

I am getting confused. One one hand people are claiming that the spy programs only compile rhett o rick Jun 2013 #51

If you are confused (which I doubt) it's because there's more than one thing going on. pnwmom Jun 2013 #56

PRISM targets anything it wants--foreign or domestic marions ghost Jun 2013 #82

Where does it say that this information is collected in the US without a warrant? pnwmom Jun 2013 #103

You might want to do more research nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #111

The Verizon matter is NOT the same as PRISM. You keep mixing them up. pnwmom Jun 2013 #120

And that makes it better... nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #121

If you're not confused, then you are just wrong. pnwmom Jun 2013 #122

And section 215 is the verizon production order nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #123

One of the comments on that Vanity Fair article says this: marions ghost Jun 2013 #126

Tier one is how echellon also worked nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #133

Excellent article marions ghost Jun 2013 #128

Yeah, they really don't nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #129

That's the impression I'm getting... marions ghost Jun 2013 #136

It could be politics nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #137

yeah marions ghost Jun 2013 #138

Greenwald lives in Brazil and works for a UK paper azurnoir Jun 2013 #25

Maybe not. They have refused requests for extradition before. They Cleita Jun 2013 #29

What are we charging this journalist with again? LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #37

How about being a piss-poor journalist? randome Jun 2013 #41

Well, that might work. If you are an idiot LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #45

Oh you're just mad because he dared to upset your reality bubble. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #98

at this point nothing but there has been speculation azurnoir Jun 2013 #62

Probably nothing. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #84

That is interesting LondonReign2 Jun 2013 #115

they seem desperate enough to declare war on Brazil carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #119

Greenwald works for the Guardian US which in incorporated in the US and has offices in NY City. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #108

K&R woo me with science Jun 2013 #31

How much is it that those in Congress really did not know about it all CanonRay Jun 2013 #46

Well, we could ask 2000 John Conyers nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #86

Excellent article. I bookmarked that. Catherina Jun 2013 #89

What "massive spying apparatus" treestar Jun 2013 #57

This one KurtNYC Jun 2013 #66

that's just a building treestar Jun 2013 #102

Look up the definition of "massive". Fuddnik Jun 2013 #67

Bloomberg article: Myrina Jun 2013 #75

You know, the largest one in the history of the planet, that Obama has expanded. That one. DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #76

What rock are you living under? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #85

Yottabytes of data sounds massive to anyone not cheering creeping facism. HooptieWagon Jun 2013 #93

We have descended to the absurd. bvar22 Jun 2013 #109

du rec. xchrom Jun 2013 #70

Update to Greenwald's latest cites NYT article on Yahoo challenge to PRISM ProSense Jun 2013 #79

It's my understanding ... Texano78704 Jun 2013 #83

I'm impressed by the way that he promotes his own "heroism" MrScorpio Jun 2013 #90

Sweet baby Jeebus! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #107

You know, I'm not faulting him for his efforts to expose how the government is wrong here MrScorpio Jun 2013 #117

Please, please, tell me you're on twitter... loop204 Jun 2013 #127

Yep, I'm on Twitter alright MrScorpio Jun 2013 #131

Thank you... n/t loop204 Jun 2013 #132

This is better handled by Financial Writers. KoKo Jun 2013 #148

You can't 'un-rotten' an apple. - K&R n/t DeSwiss Jun 2013 #141

k&r avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #142

I don't know who kicked this... ReRe Jun 2013 #143

. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #144

Tip of the iceburg davidpdx Jun 2013 #146

And remember both WaPo and Guardian have had staff vett the info. KoKo Jun 2013 #149

I think you may mean "affect" nt gulliver Jun 2013 #150