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Catherina

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58. No kidding! " It started in April and May...""King Abdullah showed a map with "Sunnistan""
Sat Jun 15, 2013, 03:09 AM
Jun 2013
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It started in April and May, when European allies Britain and France presented skeptical U.S. officials with evidence that Mr. Assad had used chemical weapons against his people. It culminated in an emergency phone call a week ago in which a top rebel commander warned the administration that a "menacing" buildup of forces around Aleppo threatened to snuff out the rebel cause.

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In March, Britain began testing physiological samples from Syria for chemical weapons, and then started sharing the results with the U.S. and France. At the time, some U.S. officials were dismissive, saying the samples may have been tainted by rebels who want to draw the West into the conflict on their side.

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Starting in April, a procession of Arab leaders made their case on Syria directly to Mr. Obama and his top advisers. Some of the leaders, including Jordan's King Abdullah, traveled to Washington. King Abdullah said the U.S. should be "captain of the team"—to corral other Arab states which have been working at cross purposes by providing arms to different rebel groups.

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To try to make real the dangers for Mr. Obama, King Abdullah showed the White House, and later congressional officials, a map of a hypothetical future Syria, splintered along ethnic lines: an Alawite coastal strip; a Sunni-dominated center that officials said the king called "Sunnistan"; a Druze-controlled area near the border with Israel; a Kurdish zone in the northeast corner; and a large swath of Syrian desert abutting Anbar province in Iraq dominated by Islamists.

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Secretary of State John Kerry was among the most vocal supporters of arming the rebels, officials said.

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I wonder who he's been doing consulting work for lately. hughee99 Jun 2013 #1
He's exercising his 1st amendment right to free speech graham4anything Jun 2013 #2
As are we all, but that's what the OP was asking villager Jun 2013 #4
Because the smartest President in my lifetime knows what he's talking about? nt onehandle Jun 2013 #3
or maybe he stands to line his pockets? cali Jun 2013 #10
I don't think he was ever credited as the smartest on foreign policy karynnj Jun 2013 #21
Few would call him the most morally grounded. David__77 Jun 2013 #36
To validate his support of Sunni Islamists in Bosnia and Kosovo? FarCenter Jun 2013 #5
Very good question. Laelth Jun 2013 #25
State Dept cover up of sexual assault and pedophilia under Hillitary's watch. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #6
The Ambassador to Belgium was an Obama bundler. DURHAM D Jun 2013 #8
that has got nothing to do with the coverup. who gave money to campaigns. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #13
i don't think obama would really care to cover for her... allin99 Jun 2013 #24
no, Obama would not. Whisp Jun 2013 #30
so obama has nothing to do with going into syria... allin99 Jun 2013 #44
"First, do no harm" hedgehog Jun 2013 #7
yep. our intervention will cause more suffering and death cali Jun 2013 #9
No idea leftynyc Jun 2013 #11
Regrets over Rwanda? (nt) Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #12
i'd be willing to bet this. i think that's *part* of the reason his wife... allin99 Jun 2013 #18
why is obama doing it then, must be important, no? allin99 Jun 2013 #14
what do you mean by important? cali Jun 2013 #15
right... allin99 Jun 2013 #16
I asked about Clinton because I found his language around it odd cali Jun 2013 #17
ah. he think it helps... allin99 Jun 2013 #23
I don't buy it. you'd have to be stupid as shit to not realize that intervening will cause MORE cali Jun 2013 #27
he knows they'll be death and suffering... allin99 Jun 2013 #28
I agree karynnj Jun 2013 #26
When your wife wants to be President, Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #52
Snowden was with the CIA ... What if he never left? Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #19
Maybe they have proof of a coverup. Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #53
That's been my assertion all along. The guy has had one job -- as a SPOOK. nt Nay Jun 2013 #57
Never pass up an opportunity to dispose of a dictator railsback Jun 2013 #20
Another Sister Soulja moment? To show his disdain for the left? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #22
He's just clearing the decks for Hillary WestStar Jun 2013 #29
then what do you think is obama's reason for following through? allin99 Jun 2013 #31
IDK, the question was Clinton's motive WestStar Jun 2013 #32
no chance they have the same motive?... allin99 Jun 2013 #34
No? No. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #41
and now he's in agreement with them. allin99 Jun 2013 #42
She will not become president. David__77 Jun 2013 #33
especially not if the State Dept scandal gets more coverage. n/t Whisp Jun 2013 #37
Rwanda guilt? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #35
I wonder if he also has East Timor guilt, or maybe a smidge of killing Iraqi's guilt? Whisp Jun 2013 #38
There's certainly a lot of options of things he should feel guilty about. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #40
Best Republican President we have had so far. Cleita Jun 2013 #39
he's been hanging out with the Bush's G_j Jun 2013 #43
Indeed shanti Jun 2013 #59
Bill is just serving those he served best Catherina Jun 2013 #45
I don't think Obama wanted to go in either, but in the end he did make the decision to cali Jun 2013 #46
He still responsible and I'm going to hold him responsible Catherina Jun 2013 #48
Awful - CIA to coordinate arming of rebels. NoFlyZone inside Syria to be enforced by US & allies Catherina Jun 2013 #50
I saw that yesterday night and it was out of line with the WP and NYT karynnj Jun 2013 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author darkangel218 Jun 2013 #47
I've heard on both the BBC and MSNBC octoberlib Jun 2013 #49
No kidding! " It started in April and May...""King Abdullah showed a map with "Sunnistan"" Catherina Jun 2013 #58
Because his wife DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #51
Truth be told Eddie Haskell Jun 2013 #54
I think Israel might prefer Assad to most of the rebels having power - and they hate Assad karynnj Jun 2013 #56
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