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In reply to the discussion: Headline: US troops on Syria border as Obama arms rebels [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,251 posts)23. Not much of a stretch - Clinton was supporting McCain on Syria on Tuesday
Bill Clinton splits with President Obama on Syria
Bill Clinton told Sen. John McCain he agrees that President Barack Obama should act more forcefully to support anti-Assad rebels in Syria, saying the American public elects presidents and members of Congress to see down the road and to win.
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Some people say, Okay, see what a big mess it is? Stay out! I think thats a big mistake. I agree with you about this, Clinton told McCain during an event for the McCain Institute for International Leadership in Manhattan Tuesday night. Sometimes its just best to get caught trying, as long as you dont overcommit like, as long as you dont make an improvident commitment.
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My view is that we shouldnt over-learn the lessons of the past, Clinton said. I dont think Syria is necessarily Iraq or Afghanistan no one has asked us to send any soldiers in there. I think its more like Afghanistan was in the 80s when they were fighting the Soviet Union when President Reagan was in office (and) got an enormous amount of influence and gratitude by helping to topple the Soviet-backed regime and then made the error of not hanging around in Afghanistan to try to cash in on the gains.
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If Clinton had ever blamed a lack of action because there was a poll in the morning paper that said 80 percent of you were against it youd look like a total wuss, he said. And you would be. I dont mean that a leader should go out of his way or her way to do the unpopular thing, I simply mean when people are telling you no in these situations, very often what theyre doing is flashing a giant yellow light and saying, For Gods sakes, be careful, tell us what youre doing, think this through, be careful.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/bill-clinton-splits-with-obama-on-syria-92683.html
Bill Clinton told Sen. John McCain he agrees that President Barack Obama should act more forcefully to support anti-Assad rebels in Syria, saying the American public elects presidents and members of Congress to see down the road and to win.
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Some people say, Okay, see what a big mess it is? Stay out! I think thats a big mistake. I agree with you about this, Clinton told McCain during an event for the McCain Institute for International Leadership in Manhattan Tuesday night. Sometimes its just best to get caught trying, as long as you dont overcommit like, as long as you dont make an improvident commitment.
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My view is that we shouldnt over-learn the lessons of the past, Clinton said. I dont think Syria is necessarily Iraq or Afghanistan no one has asked us to send any soldiers in there. I think its more like Afghanistan was in the 80s when they were fighting the Soviet Union when President Reagan was in office (and) got an enormous amount of influence and gratitude by helping to topple the Soviet-backed regime and then made the error of not hanging around in Afghanistan to try to cash in on the gains.
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If Clinton had ever blamed a lack of action because there was a poll in the morning paper that said 80 percent of you were against it youd look like a total wuss, he said. And you would be. I dont mean that a leader should go out of his way or her way to do the unpopular thing, I simply mean when people are telling you no in these situations, very often what theyre doing is flashing a giant yellow light and saying, For Gods sakes, be careful, tell us what youre doing, think this through, be careful.
http://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/bill-clinton-splits-with-obama-on-syria-92683.html
So it's not a stretch that Bill Clinton has been talking in similar terms to Obama. The question is whether Obama would pay him any attention.
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Not much of a stretch - Clinton was supporting McCain on Syria on Tuesday
muriel_volestrangler
Jun 2013
#23
horseshit. no one is saying that. People are saying that Clinton should butt the fuck out.
cali
Jun 2013
#26
Obama: "I do not foresee a scenario in which American boots on the ground in Syria..."
magellan
Jun 2013
#7
God dammit, not another fucking war. For fucks sakes, we're not even done with the last two yet.
Erose999
Jun 2013
#13
"I don't know how World War III will be fought, but I do know how World War IV will be fought."
KamaAina
Jun 2013
#14
I love how those who have no skin in the game are always the first to cheer for war
YeahSureRight
Jun 2013
#24
I said to someone at work yesterday that we will be seeing another airliner crashing into
YeahSureRight
Jun 2013
#28
'Twould be great if we could find a President who wasn't so eager to send people
bike man
Jun 2013
#32