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112. I had seen a headline...but this is truly Disgusting...

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:46 AM

Jun 2013

I've wondered about his "Global Initiative Fund." In the interview yesterday he said that they are doing Wind Farms in Native American Tribal areas in the SouthWest so that the Tribes will have their own power and can keep the money inside the Reservations rather than paying big companies. Sounded good...but, I wonder now that I read the details about Haiti if there isn't some scam involved. Maybe they will pay the companies who install the Wind Farms more money than the former utilities in the end.

He did say that these Reservations are ones that can't make money off of Gambling because it's illegal in their states and that's why his Global Initiative targeted them for the Wind Farms. So...wonder if the reservations are supposed to get into "Selling Off" some of the energy they produce that will make them as much money as the Casinos do for other tribes. After reading that about Haiti...one does wonder...

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Bill Clinton, STFU [View all] DonCoquixote Jun 2013 OP

Works for me! hedgehog Jun 2013 #1

yout forgot massive h-1b visa increases and MFN-China markiv Jun 2013 #2

And welfare "reform". nt awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #41

GW Bush dealt a deathblow to the middle and working classes AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #110

no, i lived it, and voted for clinton in 1996 markiv Jun 2013 #116

I remember an inflated stock market based on dubious accounting practices. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #141

X2 ctsnowman Jun 2013 #152

Stock markets don't create jobs AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #183

take off the blinders ceonupe Jun 2013 #158

Had Bush kept Clintons economic policies up AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #184

not arguing that ceonupe Jun 2013 #209

Bla bla bla AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #210

jerk? backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #156

No more Clintons, No more bushes. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #159

Bernie Sanders isn't a Democrat George II Jun 2013 #181

Even better, he's a Democratic Socialist. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #186

fuck bill clinton. I wish he'd just go away and yeah, I know he's great on the campaign trail cali Jun 2013 #3

And there is this. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #80

Most likely Obama used Clinton for cover from the left. Laelth Jun 2013 #82

You have quite an imagination. AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #87

I have said, on a number of occasions, that Obama has been fighting off the dogs of war. Laelth Jun 2013 #113

Yeah, I know. He's only useful when the Democrat's are in trouble. Beacool Jun 2013 #99

Ditto montanacowboy Jun 2013 #4

-1 This is really over the top and disgusting. Comparing a democratic president to what you said??? graham4anything Jun 2013 #5

No thoughts on Syria or the pipeline? reusrename Jun 2013 #19

I think I'm starting to get it tavalon Jun 2013 #73

Sorry, but that struck me as.. Cha Jun 2013 #75

Snark? tavalon Jun 2013 #76

yeah, but your Cha Jun 2013 #77

Boo Effing Hoo azbillyboy Jun 2013 #42

Total agreement here, let Clinton go blow his sax. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #160

I totally agree with you........I stopped reading this site for a couple of months, and......... George II Jun 2013 #45

I'm with ya on that. Especially since the entire speech of Clinton was him referring to his not okaawhatever Jun 2013 #54

My answer DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #56

So never ever support anyone against the bad guys, ever again AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #64

It was us who empowered the "bad guys" to start with, right? I'm pretty sure Assad was our creation Erose999 Jun 2013 #67

Not if they are linked to Iran DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #69

Who are the bad guys in Syria? The 'rebels'/Al Queda or the Government? We were good friends with sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #79

Al Quaeda does not exist in any meaningful way AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #91

I thought they buried him at sea?? CokeMachine Jun 2013 #143

It's a figure of speech AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #185

Osama bin Laden became Osama bin Laden because..... George II Jun 2013 #176

My thinking on that is treestar Jun 2013 #135

Yeah, that's what is suprising me. I expected more sympathy from the left with the sarin gas okaawhatever Jun 2013 #136

Stay out of foreign civil wars, did we learn nothing from Vietnam? xtraxritical Jun 2013 #161

I think in this case, John2 Jun 2013 #170

There have been already, and as you point out probably 10000% more if we didn't help. George II Jun 2013 #180

Hear, hear!!! Beacool Jun 2013 #103

Graham, what did you expect? Beacool Jun 2013 #102

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #167

He's trying to intrude on the presidency loyalsister Jun 2013 #6

Merely intrude DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #9

It's all about Bill loyalsister Jun 2013 #13

I find the obsession some here have with Bill Clinton AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #95

Please elaborate on what you mean by "this Syrian crap". George II Jun 2013 #51

simple DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #53

Bill risked war with Russia? AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #98

You sound like a cross between Alex Jones and a Democrat AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #94

like he "intruded" during the DNC to help win Obama this election? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #150

Yes, Democrats are good speechifiers IMHO. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #162

That wasn't the presidency in action it was an election loyalsister Jun 2013 #187

you don't criticize a sitting president publicly on foreign affairs. Whisp Jun 2013 #197

Exactly loyalsister Jun 2013 #204

and obama has to listen because? you should allocate responsibility to obama when you like La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #208

My criticism was of Bill Clinton criticizing the foreign policy of a sitting president loyalsister Jun 2013 #213

indeed -- STFU, bill. nt xchrom Jun 2013 #7

Never liked Clinton. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #8

How long? BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #10

Then in that case DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #11

Dude is exhausting BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #14

Actually the opposite is true AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #100

Only out of necessity BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #108

They have been working together closely on many issues for a long time AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #111

LOL BeyondGeography Jun 2013 #114

LOL AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #191

Someone's portfolio needs stuffing. Baitball Blogger Jun 2013 #12

I get the idea we are seeing a "fuck ALL those guys from the 90s". Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #15

Does it seem like democratic men from the south become more conservative ecstatic Jun 2013 #16

not Jimmy! carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #30

Thank you. Indeed tavalon Jun 2013 #74

A man who just couldn't get involved in the relatively simple operation it would have been to stop Schema Thing Jun 2013 #17

Rwanda was no more simple than Bosnia or Syria Hekate Jun 2013 #34

don't be silly Schema Thing Jun 2013 #65

Sure Hekate Jun 2013 #71

You comparing, John2 Jun 2013 #172

I love the big dawg! LostOne4Ever Jun 2013 #18

I really don't like what Clinton said about Syria and how he undermined Obama on this CreekDog Jun 2013 #20

Exactly - Name Calling? otohara Jun 2013 #22

He also destroyed welfare and we are seeing the increasingly horrible affects of that to this day. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #21

The Old Dog came down off the porch to put up a fight. bvar22 Jun 2013 #23

Disappointing, to say the least. GoCubsGo Jun 2013 #24

obama makes his own decisions, unless you are saying... allin99 Jun 2013 #25

Any guesses on when Bill goes Zell Miller on us? n2doc Jun 2013 #26

When the Democrats nominate a liberal ctsnowman Jun 2013 #163

I like Chris Rock. And your OP. Whisp Jun 2013 #27

+1 JoeyT Jun 2013 #50

I have tried so hard over the years to like Bill Clinton nevergiveup Jun 2013 #28

I agree. Clinton is so opposite of Obama Whisp Jun 2013 #31

Yes, indeed AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #193

ah, so you still believer Orange Boneman about that 98%? Whisp Jun 2013 #194

I chose my Jimmy Carter avatar for a reason carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #29

Bill needs to understand his wife might be held accountable to his words BlueStreak Jun 2013 #32

Gotta agree with you on these issues -- and disagree with Bill. gateley Jun 2013 #33

Disgusting characterizations in this thread Hekate Jun 2013 #35

Disgusting is right, but I agree with the poster. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #38

Just imagine jehop61 Jun 2013 #36

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #37

You forgot the Commodity Futures Modernization Act signed by Bill Clinton. nt antigop Jun 2013 #39

Just a comment: Still love the Big Dog, despite his failings. Hekate Jun 2013 #40

this link may shed some light on his do gooder thing: Whisp Jun 2013 #48

Channeling his inner John McCain. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #43

Great summary! nt ErikJ Jun 2013 #44

Either the press mis-characterized his statement BainsBane Jun 2013 #46

Why I used the image I did DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #47

no need to defend hopemountain Jun 2013 #182

Bill speaks for Bill and he isn't dragging us anywhere aikoaiko Jun 2013 #49

I felt like his "Whore" watching him Pontificating on Blooberg Business today KoKo Jun 2013 #52

"America's Wages are now on Parity Globally so this is an Excellent time Whisp Jun 2013 #55

GLOBAL PARITIY!?! With slave labor wages in China/3rd world countries?!?! Divernan Jun 2013 #81

Excellent post, Divernan. I apologize for my Rant... KoKo Jun 2013 #86

I don't know if you have seen this: The Bush Clinton Haiti fund. Whisp Jun 2013 #89

I had seen a headline...but this is truly Disgusting... KoKo Jun 2013 #112

Private/Public Partnerships ctsnowman Jun 2013 #164

Glass�Steagall Act anyone? Caretha Jun 2013 #57

Which passed with overwhelming support from both parties and was veto proof. Beacool Jun 2013 #97

"Bill Clinton, Chris Christie talk Hurricane Sandy recovery at Chicago conference." proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #58

Why the Hell should CC get so much praise DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #61

Assumption is debatable, dubious, take your pick, but the sports metaphor applies, as in PLAY BALL. proverbialwisdom Jun 2013 #66

Obama has praised him too AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #104

The Funny Uncle is still triangulating. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #59

R#62 & K for, YIP, Bill you placed your CARNAL power ABOVE our AGENDA, so SHUT UP. N/T UTUSN Jun 2013 #60

I love Bill Clinton AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #62

Are you actually blaming Clinton for Obama's war-like moves on Syria? Skip Intro Jun 2013 #63

actually yes I am DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #68

I am surprised he said something like that. Skip Intro Jun 2013 #70

He said Obama was a "Wuss" for not dealing with Syria.. KoKo Jun 2013 #93

He's always hanging around Obama? Beacool Jun 2013 #96

Usually if Presidents seek advice from Former Presidents... KoKo Jun 2013 #101

That was Obama's choice. Beacool Jun 2013 #109

...... DainBramaged Jun 2013 #85

More than you know DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #125

So Obama's policies and decisions are Bill Clintons fault? AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #105

not all, but DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #211

"Not at all but" AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #214

so DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #218

Why do you act like Obama is Bill's puppet, do you realize how weak you are saying obama is? allin99 Jun 2013 #196

Comparing Bill Clinton to a child molester? Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #72

Apparently decisions Obama made weeks ago are Bills fault too AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #106

and you do not think DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #119

Obama has his own brain AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #124

I do DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #127

Always in denial about Obama, huh? Beacool Jun 2013 #138

Always in denial about Clinton, huh? DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #144

I'll say to you what a journalist from Chicago thought about Obama from the very start. Beacool Jun 2013 #173

So, in your world DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #188

I'm not talking about her. Beacool Jun 2013 #189

well DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #190

Hillary is far, far to the left of Obama AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #192

are you serious? DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #195

I didn't say she was a leftist AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #206

you are still soooooo angry... Whisp Jun 2013 #199

It's never Obama's fault. Beacool Jun 2013 #132

I don't blame Clinton - or credit Clinton - for anything Obama does karynnj Jun 2013 #168

I didn't say that he knew what Obama was about to do. Beacool Jun 2013 #171

Context is everything karynnj Jun 2013 #178

Right. This isn't 1992 any more. David__77 Jun 2013 #78

It's the hindsight that is the change in viewpoint. KoKo Jun 2013 #118

I agree DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #121

Here comes the hate DainBramaged Jun 2013 #83

It's like catnip to some here. Beacool Jun 2013 #128

Back in the day, they'd be eating granite DainBramaged Jun 2013 #129

You said it. Beacool Jun 2013 #134

These are the people who HATED Hillary with a passion in 2008 claiming Obama was purer DainBramaged Jun 2013 #137

eating granite DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #154

I never voted for him.....and I agree, Bill, STFU eom a kennedy Jun 2013 #84

Did you vote for Bush and Dole? AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #107

Hate to say but I voted for nader both times..... a kennedy Jun 2013 #142

This is the kind of OP that has driven away in droves Clinton supporters from DU. Beacool Jun 2013 #88

We've made a Right turn and aren't going back DainBramaged Jun 2013 #115

You wish DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #126

Yes, it is, but that's DU for you. Beacool Jun 2013 #130

Thumbs down on this thread. (nt) Nine Jun 2013 #90

Agree with most, except LWolf Jun 2013 #92

I wish that were true DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #120

It's true, at least when I look at his record. LWolf Jun 2013 #133

Clinton is too stupid or too egotistical and insecure to realize that he's being used tularetom Jun 2013 #117

Last gasp of the DLC. Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #122

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think Clinton is trying to do Obama a favor reorg Jun 2013 #123

I don't for the following reason karynnj Jun 2013 #139

OUCH DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #146

Romney did what Clinton is doing Whisp Jun 2013 #148

allow me this link DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #131

Thanks for the link. ctsnowman Jun 2013 #166

thanks AtomicKitten Jun 2013 #219

He's a better republican than most republicans. Great salesman too. gtar100 Jun 2013 #140

LOL La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #145

I am blaming for him the words shown in my links DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #147

if you consider his words to be more valuable than Obama's actions La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #149

I am mad at Obama for listening to them DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #151

poor helpless little obama traumatized by the power of the big bad clintons La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #155

In their eyes, when Obama veers in a direction that they don't like, Beacool Jun 2013 #175

it's the most insulting thing i've read here about obama. allin99 Jun 2013 #198

Obama is smarter than Clinton Whisp Jun 2013 #200

lol. so smart that obama does whatever he says... allin99 Jun 2013 #201

time will tell us more. Obama is smarter than Clinton Whisp Jun 2013 #202

i guess all the posts calling obama a follower of bill... allin99 Jun 2013 #203

Obama is smarter than Bill Clinton???? Beacool Jun 2013 #205

lol. I think I'm letting this one go. Whisp Jun 2013 #207

Time mtasselin Jun 2013 #153

I see all the ctsnowman Jun 2013 #157

This message was self-deleted by its author ctsnowman Jun 2013 #165

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #169

Blah, blah, blah... cynatnite Jun 2013 #174

Clinton is good at pushing war when he's not in charge but I seem to remember a little country craigmatic Jun 2013 #177

And that's precisely his point. Beacool Jun 2013 #179

Yeah so now he's overcompensating by being militant at every turn. craigmatic Jun 2013 #212

He hasn't been president for 13 years AgingAmerican Jun 2013 #215

Am I? This is part of a pattern of behavior. He supported the war in Iraq in 2003. craigmatic Jun 2013 #217

that's his problem and his guilt Whisp Jun 2013 #216