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81. Agree with that completely

Reply to 2naSalit (Reply #78)

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 11:42 AM

Jun 2013

But it's good to keep tabs on him since he still has influence through his role with Quartet and his consulting role.

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Sarin my ass. they're LYING to us again. [View all] cali Jun 2013 OP

Of course malaise Jun 2013 #1

That's because Califa Jun 2013 #53

Looks like Blair is revving up again suffragette Jun 2013 #74

David Kelly will get him in the end malaise Jun 2013 #76

"You can live a lie until you die" suffragette Jun 2013 #80

One of my favorite John Lennon songs malaise Jun 2013 #102

Thanks. Now a new favorite for me, too! suffragette Jun 2013 #110

+1 russspeakeasy Jun 2013 #111

Screw Tony Blair nt 2naSalit Jun 2013 #78

Agree with that completely suffragette Jun 2013 #81

Neocon Blair TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #98

By far, the most important chemical involving Syria... nikto Jun 2013 #136

More from the same article cali Jun 2013 #2

The USA has a problem with gas, B Calm Jun 2013 #3

Exactly. dawg Jun 2013 #52

"the Obama administration has yet to offer details of what evidence it has" n/t lamp_shade Jun 2013 #4

Colin Powell has poisoned that well. Orsino Jun 2013 #9

Exactly davidpdx Jun 2013 #39

We should follow Canada's lead, don't get involved. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #116

Not getting involved has consequences as well davidpdx Jun 2013 #123

False equivalence. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #127

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #138

You are entitiled to your opinion davidpdx Jun 2013 #147

We didn't get burned. go west young man Jun 2013 #145

I'm talking in terms of getting lied to davidpdx Jun 2013 #146

Yup ! russspeakeasy Jun 2013 #112

I guess they haven't finished drawing it. Marr Jun 2013 #113

They need some tubes! Enthusiast Jun 2013 #119

k&r for exposure. Laelth Jun 2013 #5

Gas SamKnause Jun 2013 #6

I like your orientation. It conforms with mine. tomp Jun 2013 #8

Gas 2 SamKnause Jun 2013 #15

absolutely, really pretty simple. tomp Jun 2013 #41

The RULING elites are a greater threat than any "terrorism". Enthusiast Jun 2013 #120

yes. NoMoreWarNow Jun 2013 #35

Du rec. Nt xchrom Jun 2013 #7

Do you really want proof? quaker bill Jun 2013 #10

I want us not to intervene, but damn straight I also want proof of claims that Assad forces cali Jun 2013 #12

not incompatible more irrelevant. quaker bill Jun 2013 #70

Because if you're going to make a claim, you should back it up Scootaloo Jun 2013 #92

Apparently quaker bill Jun 2013 #148

She's pretty much the last DU poster who would support intervention TomClash Jun 2013 #14

Gas 3 SamKnause Jun 2013 #19

For me it's both. dkf Jun 2013 #59

The regime has NOT killed 94,000 people. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #87

But if the "freedom fighters" kill them, that makes the victims deserving, right? Scootaloo Jun 2013 #93

Also, any raped and murdered nuns the freedom fighters attack have it coming by the same logic Dragonfli Jun 2013 #103

So the regime killed all 94,000? al Qaeda killed none? You sure about that? delrem Jun 2013 #107

Why would I trust America sorefeet Jun 2013 #11

If Obama had wanted to support the rebels East Coast Pirate Jun 2013 #13

so Sarin is your "red line"? DCBob Jun 2013 #16

no, but I don't like the government lying us into military involvement. do you? cali Jun 2013 #18

so even if they could prove sarin use your still against getting involved? DCBob Jun 2013 #20

yes, I'm still against it. I don't believe it will accomplish the end to the killing cali Jun 2013 #21

so what does this mean? .. "I want fucking indisputable PROOF" DCBob Jun 2013 #25

the point is that extraordinary claims from the gov't that entail military action cali Jun 2013 #27

nearly 100,000 killed so far in the Syria conflict.. DCBob Jun 2013 #31

hey bob, do you know how many have been killed in the DRC? cali Jun 2013 #45

of course we pick and choose which conflicts to get involved in.. DCBob Jun 2013 #50

lol. you're the one that asked if we should just sit back and wait until a million are killed in cali Jun 2013 #54

I didnt say it was right to ignore millions being killed anywhere. DCBob Jun 2013 #61

Doing something should not entail throwing gasoline on the fire. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #88

With our track record, I dont agree we should always try to do something. rhett o rick Jun 2013 #90

Precisely.......nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #121

The point is to assert that Obama is lying us into a war treestar Jun 2013 #48

yes, that point is crystal clear. DCBob Jun 2013 #51

bzzzt. gigantic fail, bobby. cali Jun 2013 #58

glad to hear that.. that's something you have going for you. DCBob Jun 2013 #62

no. that's not the point and I think Obama is a 1000x better than bush. cali Jun 2013 #57

The problem is I doubt you would believe anything they provide as proof. DCBob Jun 2013 #66

Bingo. Note post 40 nt treestar Jun 2013 #71

I answer your questions, why don't you answer mine? cali Jun 2013 #22

Dumb question.. what kind of idiot would want to be lied into a war? DCBob Jun 2013 #23

lol. your questions are hardly brilliant. cali Jun 2013 #24

perhaps.. just trying to clarify WTF you are saying. DCBob Jun 2013 #26

Even if we play in the neocon ballpark . . . TomClash Jun 2013 #17

We have no business getting involved over there Aerows Jun 2013 #30

It shouldn't be about politics,... indianjoe3295 Jun 2013 #32

We don't have a direct national interest, but that maybe a good thing davidpdx Jun 2013 #37

how long have we sat back and let the slaughter continue in the Congo? cali Jun 2013 #46

Cali, you are one of my favorite posters... choie Jun 2013 #67

Yes but it's purported, not real nt TomClash Jun 2013 #91

If you think it's a lie, blame the British and the French. They started it. bornskeptic Jun 2013 #28

Yes, I'm aware of the French and British claims, but so what? cali Jun 2013 #40

That looks like actual evidence treestar Jun 2013 #49

Well, yes, I do blame them. The old colonial masters are itching to reimpose their will. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #89

Exactly. It was the French that first made the assertion that Assad was gassing his people Number23 Jun 2013 #122

I think it's a lie, too. Ilsa Jun 2013 #29

so its a lie just because there are no videos or cell phone photos? DCBob Jun 2013 #33

they have provided NO EVIDENCE. Now you want to swallow it whole, feel free cali Jun 2013 #34

not swallowing anything.. just trying to clarify what the fuss is all about. DCBob Jun 2013 #36

I think the piece I posted and those quoted, articulate what the fuss is all about. cali Jun 2013 #38

The French found evidence in bodily fluid of victims treestar Jun 2013 #55

The sight of Richard Engel mimi85 Jun 2013 #128

Sounds like a bunch of yellow cake to me. reusrename Jun 2013 #42

Arabs have been killing Arabs for thousands of years sellitman Jun 2013 #43

Europeans have been killing Europeans for thousands of years delrem Jun 2013 #108

Why lie? Uben Jun 2013 #44

There is always money to pay for war, but no money to take care of citizens. CrispyQ Jun 2013 #47

Only ones caught with Sarin gas in Syria were al Qaeda affiliated rebels. Octafish Jun 2013 #56

WMD's! WMD's! kentuck Jun 2013 #60

I don't believe either.think those missiles fired in broke containers of city supplies & harmed people Sunlei Jun 2013 #63

PNAC, AIPAC, MIC, CIA, NSA: Five sources that have ZERO credibility on this, and dangerous agendas. Ford_Prefect Jun 2013 #64

Mccain ought to go fight Assad himself, if he's DirkGently Jun 2013 #65

You wouldn't know what to do with indisputable proof. You're not a chemist. MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #68

The last time we did that it turned out to be a grandly staged exercise in deceit. Ford_Prefect Jun 2013 #69

I'd just like to know if they got a chemist's report at all. snappyturtle Jun 2013 #101

+1 . I agree with Thom Hartmann too. USA stay away chknltl Jun 2013 #132

I agree with Hartman in that he says we can go into Syria but in doing so if the snappyturtle Jun 2013 #134

I'm against intervention, but if we do it, I prefer proof to lies. neverforget Jun 2013 #105

Russia, of all things, is calling us out on this. dkf Jun 2013 #72

Fuck another war darkangel218 Jun 2013 #73

Even were it true... Fearless Jun 2013 #75

Maybe they are just doing an investigation. ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #77

Sarin sounds so much cooler than Yellowcake n/t leftstreet Jun 2013 #79

"And no, sorry, I don't automatically believe President Obama." ProSense Jun 2013 #82

Whew. For a minute, I thought that the top line was yours. Then I saw the quote marks. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #83

so, what if they are telling the truth? mike_c Jun 2013 #84

Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #86

Same bullshit play from the war machine whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #85

Whether lying or not, it's still a dumbass idea to get involved in another civil war. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #94

Assad is WINNING TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #95

Bingo. The best proof that he did not use it. Anybody here in his shoes would not bring a GoneFishin Jun 2013 #114

The problem is, this isn't Iraq. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #139

I have not got my bearings yet on this conflict, so I am not predisposed one way or another. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #153

There may indeed be fishy dealings on both sides of the aisle....that I don't doubt. AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #154

I don't see it myself. But in any case I am not going to be sucked in by rumors. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #156

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #96

Gulf of Tonkin, or the sinking of the Maine, anyone? DirkGently Jun 2013 #97

Thank you Cali! Thank you! "Britain Prepared for War in Syria 2 Years Before Crisis Flared Up" Catherina Jun 2013 #99

I am reminded of this :- TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #100

See what they got away with while you were distracted? ucrdem Jun 2013 #104

"Naturally the common people don't want war. DirkGently Jun 2013 #106

This works for spying on your own citizens too. GoneFishin Jun 2013 #115

Just thinking that. DirkGently Jun 2013 #117

yeah, it's bullshit. killbotfactory Jun 2013 #109

I figured they were lying when their lips were moving. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #118

heh. SammyWinstonJack Jun 2013 #135

This post is pointless Cali_Democrat Jun 2013 #124

We don't have a good track record with telling the truth ozone_man Jun 2013 #142

Coockoo heads fascisthunter Jun 2013 #125

K&R. Lips moving? MotherPetrie Jun 2013 #126

TRUST US. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #129

K&R DeSwiss Jun 2013 #130

But... it was the French and British that were claiming it weeks ago. DRoseDARs Jun 2013 #131

What if Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #141

Your attempt at a gotcha post there is too cute by half, but you need to think deeper than the skin. DRoseDARs Jun 2013 #143

I'm not convinced that the isolated use of sarin gas cheapdate Jun 2013 #149

And that post right there is how these debates SHOULD go. DRoseDARs Jun 2013 #150

Of course the rebels have access to Sarin Lugal Zaggesi Jun 2013 #155

This is what a sarin attack looks like Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #133

Who exactly has crossed that red line and I agree .... where is the proof? polly7 Jun 2013 #137

Marco Werman interviewed a chemical weapons "expert" cheapdate Jun 2013 #140

"WAR... what is it good for?"... awoke_in_2003 Jun 2013 #144

It's probably a lie but even if it isn't bowens43 Jun 2013 #151

Fool me once........ rdharma Jun 2013 #152