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caseymoz

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69. Not if the Democratic Party splits

Sat Jun 15, 2013, 01:20 PM

Jun 2013

as it looks like it will do.

Al Gore was Clinton's VP, BTW. Seems to me that buys him credibility you're refusing for him. They appear to have split on this. Apparently, the same with Obama and Biden.

There doesn't appear to be a middle ground on this. I really would like to know how Hillary is going to win crap if the liberal contingent bolts, or says absolutely no on surveillance. They're not going to take her word on it the way they did Obama.

It looks like Repubs are going to have largely the same problem over different issues.

I don't see this surveillance issue getting any better. The longer people think they're being watched the more restive they're going to be. It's going to lead to either change or a crackdown. They're not going to be talked into this.

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Al Gore: NSA Surveillance Violates The Constitution Updated [View all] TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 OP

Al Gore is not a real Democrat. He said he invented the internet & that is a proven lie. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #1

Sooner or later someone's going to post that in earnest Catherina Jun 2013 #3

Well, they trashed Alan Grayson and praised Peter 'we-count-the-votes) King, so you're probably sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #5

That was terrible Catherina Jun 2013 #8

Am I in the wrong place? kentuck Jun 2013 #27

look at the threads that are recommended-- you're in the right place carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #39

Lol, of course you are. "Al Gore is not a real Democrat" is satire equal to Catherina Jun 2013 #51

The 'Big Tent' felix_numinous Jun 2013 #79

It's a bunch of think tank whiz kids looking to usurp the site IMHO. Paid shills. grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #92

Highly likely, IMO /nt Dragonfli Jun 2013 #96

+1000 Fearless Jun 2013 #99

It's Like we suddenly went to Freeperville somehow. Katashi_itto Jun 2013 #102

I'm afraid there was no turn in particular. JackRiddler Jun 2013 #115

Yet, people trashed Bill Clinton yesterday. I guess it's selective, isn't it. graham4anything Jun 2013 #28

Bill Clinton does not equal Al Gore choie Jun 2013 #42

Bill Clinton was President for 8 years and took the same smears as President Obama. graham4anything Jun 2013 #44

Not if the Democratic Party splits caseymoz Jun 2013 #69

1968 all the protesters accomplished was to elect Nixon once LBJ was tossed into the sea. graham4anything Jun 2013 #81

The surveillance program isn't so easy caseymoz Jun 2013 #84

You need to read up on the 1980 election blackspade Jun 2013 #97

Wait a minute. Are you trying to suggest QC Jun 2013 #60

shocking, ain't it choie Jun 2013 #67

for trying to get us into another war MNBrewer Jun 2013 #113

Here's David Michael Green on Peter King bread_and_roses Jun 2013 #108

Yep. It's a cryin' shame what people will swallow Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #6

It was brilliant sarcasm. Or satire rather. It's a good thing we all know you Catherina Jun 2013 #9

Thank you for the assist. I like you a lot! Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #15

Anytime my friend Catherina Jun 2013 #71

Hong Kong Al! It's very interesting that he said he invented the internet! Has anyone sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #4

ARRRRGH. sibelian Jun 2013 #17

It's all good. xoxo. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #19

Me too. kentuck Jun 2013 #29

That was snarky? Catherina Jun 2013 #52

Not only that but he's overweight, too, Seeking Serenity Jun 2013 #30

Next to a pitbull that is smoking Aerows Jun 2013 #34

! See post 73 - "I am a pitbull on the pantleg of opportunity." Catherina Jun 2013 #72

LMFAO Aerows Jun 2013 #75

Not to take this thread too far out there but 2 poems by d.h.rumsfeld Catherina Jun 2013 #77

He's no TS Eliot, Dragonfli Jun 2013 #83

Love me some TS Eliot. zeemike Jun 2013 #91

. Dragonfli Jun 2013 #95

Al Gore was in the senate at the time and he pushed bills that funded DARPA. Neoma Jun 2013 #41

Hi sis! Catherina Jun 2013 #53

He sighs too-- Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #55

And why did he have to hire a woman to coach him QC Jun 2013 #62

You forget Love Canal. Jackpine Radical Jun 2013 #68

No he didn't danbeee46 Jun 2013 #89

That's a proven LIE! Check snopes. tblue Jun 2013 #117

But but but we've been assured by latrine-educated Constitutional Experts here that that Catherina Jun 2013 #2

"OH, well if AL GORE says it it MUST be true, huh? sibelian Jun 2013 #18

The same guy who took money from Buddhists at their temple, and then claimed that there was no Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #24

Link? Aerows Jun 2013 #26

This happened in 1996. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #31

Well Aerows Jun 2013 #32

Well, it was much more than just those incidents that caused Gore to crash and burn. Major Hogwash Jun 2013 #35

My point still stands. n/t Aerows Jun 2013 #36

In truth, Gore was correct. reusrename Jun 2013 #85

! See post 73: "I think we all agree, the past is over." Catherina Jun 2013 #74

Oh MY.... KoKo Jun 2013 #38

'The language of the 4th Amendement is crystal clear'! Thank you Al. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #7

Or Misunderestimated? Whatever. Just MAKE THE PIE HIGHER! Catherina Jun 2013 #73

And 'catapult the propaganda' sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #78

I love the poetry posts, thanks! bananas Jun 2013 #82

Thank you Pres. Gore. But you'll remember the people falling all over themselves to.... Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #10

All I remember about Al Gore is that he wore warm tones. What do you remember? Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #12

He made out with his wife at the convention... fujiyama Jun 2013 #118

Kick for the OP, and Catherina and Sabrina - women who never shirk from keeping their Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #11

Thank you Luminous :) And kick for you and all the other fighters here who do the same Catherina Jun 2013 #50

knr Douglas Carpenter Jun 2013 #13

Precisely Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #14

Good on Gore's part to step up think Jun 2013 #16

. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #20

I wonder... ReRe Jun 2013 #21

Yay for President Gore! nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #22

he never loved Big Brother carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #23

k and r nashville_brook Jun 2013 #25

Another disloyal Greenwaldian dissenter! Buuuuurn him! DirkGently Jun 2013 #33

I think Al needs to have a close door session with those who actually know the specifics. DCBob Jun 2013 #37

Have YOU had a closed door session with those who "KNOW?" KoKo Jun 2013 #40

no but I had some interactions with those that have. DCBob Jun 2013 #47

That's the problem, right there. DirkGently Jun 2013 #46

Surely you see the legitimate conflicting issues of personal rights and national security. DCBob Jun 2013 #48

Obama called that a "false choice." DirkGently Jun 2013 #49

The "false choice" is that we can only have one or the other.. DCBob Jun 2013 #87

It's got nothing to do with keeping American's safer - Perhaps you should try reading a bit TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #58

Im sure I could find dozens of other national security experts would disagree with that. DCBob Jun 2013 #88

I am SURE you could TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #90

The very same politicians that claim we need to give up our privacy for national security cpwm17 Jun 2013 #65

You draw the line to always favor personal rights. It's really simple, really. TransitJohn Jun 2013 #109

Sure, but you still have to draw a line where they conflict. DCBob Jun 2013 #110

Um, he was Vice President for eight years. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #94

Things have changed since 9/11, FISA, etc. DCBob Jun 2013 #100

Any one think this Supreme Court would agree? jbond56 Jun 2013 #43

Let's see what the courts think treestar Jun 2013 #45

has not lost his moral compass unlike some fellow Democrats carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #54

Ah hurd he ate a sea bass once. DirkGently Jun 2013 #56

Many here are finding that in "Inconvenient Truth". Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #57

OMG! Al Gore is an agent of the ChiComs! QC Jun 2013 #59

The SCOTUS may decide the program is unconstitutional, but ProSense Jun 2013 #61

I can't agree with this statement: blackspade Jun 2013 #98

Inconvenient Truth bobduca Jun 2013 #63

Now THIS is someone DonCoquixote Jun 2013 #64

Gore is a product of the racist south markiv Jun 2013 #66

All these responses are killing me. Well at least we saved them the trouble Catherina Jun 2013 #76

lol allin99 Jun 2013 #86

Republicans are strict constructionists too bucolic_frolic Jun 2013 #70

Indeed it does. Daniel537 Jun 2013 #80

But, but Al we've been told it was legal! former9thward Jun 2013 #93

B-b-but it's after 9-11. That means things are Different! backscatter712 Jun 2013 #111

ALlow me to the the first to employ Godwin's law. What took you so long? BlueStreak Jun 2013 #101

How tragic it is to actually read a thread on DU and consider how much substance it contains. Coyotl Jun 2013 #103

care to translate that into English? cali Jun 2013 #104

How tragic it is to actually read a thread on DU and consider how much substance it contains. Coyotl Jun 2013 #105

babble bullshit. do learn how to write simple sentence that makes just a wee bit of sense. cali Jun 2013 #106

What's tragic is what New Dems, Blue Dogs, DLC-Third Wayers are doing to the party. Fuddnik Jun 2013 #116

Kick & recommended. William769 Jun 2013 #107

Just out of curiosity AL...what EXACTLY is YOUR solution? SoapBox Jun 2013 #112

But, but, but ... it's okay when Obama does it. davidwparker Jun 2013 #114

If Gore really believes this then why isnt he challenging it before SCOTUS to put the whole thing to cstanleytech Jun 2013 #119

NSA program violates constituition? well, no shit sherlock RedstDem Jun 2013 #120