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In reply to the discussion: Bill Clinton, STFU [View all]DonCoquixote
(13,970 posts)We need DC transformed, and we knew that the Clintons were NOT going to do that.
Our disappointment with Obama is that he is acting just like Clinton, using the failed old GOP-Decaf model that has allowed the GOP to take control, despite the fact they wrecked the economy, our standards, and everything else FDR built.
And if experience on how DC works built a better nation, we would have had a better country to show for it, instead, it is the very experienced DC movers who seem to be making sure Rome keeps burning while the lobbyists fiddle. I see the same talking heads I did back in 1992, and sadly,they do not change the tune.
I know that we will disagree, although I wills ay that yes, if after the bloody, nasty primary, Hillary emerges (and please do not engage in that "she has not said she will run sophistry, we all know what her TBD tweet meant), yes, I will be right beside you in the Hillary 2016 HQ, though I will think of it as the "please please not Jeb or Christie! HQ." Yes, I used a painful image, but yes, a lot of my generation, and the younger Millennial, do indeed feel used, betrayed and damaged, because the person that embraced us early on turned on us hard! Clinton was the first vote for many of us, our first entry into politics, and as cynical as we are, part of us really would love it if either Bill, or even Hillary, or Obama, would stop trying so damned hard to woo the folks with the Elephants.
The same damned Elephants like John McCain, that exploited his friendship with Hillary, only to promote Palin, a woman that was a mockery of Hillary. The same people that chum it up with Bill, and then stir up the Tea party so that they call for killing uppity women and minorities, guns in hand.
Again, I will say this. If Hillary was to admit the DLC push was wrong, to call for Glass Steagall, to call for less H1-bs instead of more, I would be thrilled. With all the eagerness of Charlie brown running to kick the football from Lucy's hands, I would run. While I have gone more leftist as the 21st century has festered, I do want a liberal champion in the mainstream, not a bunch of Naders that will do their little faux shamanic drum session and feel self-righteous no matter if the country burns.
But where the hell do the comprises stop?
Once we shovel the next few thousand soldiers into yet another Mid-East war?
Once the Keystone pipeline does a spill that makes Deepwater Horizon look like a supermarket clean up?
Once the next great "compromise"is made that the GOP gets miles and Miles out of?
When does it stop?