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freshwest

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117. Dredging up old stories and any anniversary to not criticize PBO but to accuse him of heinous crimes
Sun Jun 16, 2013, 11:08 AM
Jun 2013

Goes on here everyday. This is not criticism, not based on fact but the gut contention PBO is a person of incredible evil that really loves killing and hurting people, that he hates this country, all its people, and the people of the world. That he wants them enslaved, that he wants to be impoverished, suffer, etc.

Obama the anti-christ, DU version. It's the same thing as a RWNJ site. After a while, this contention that it's all the same is theirs and arises from the Koch funded disinfo agents that have cultlike followers. This is continuous. Most recent example:

Today is the 798th anniversary of the Sealing of Magna Carta


...How, one wonders, is president Obama going to mark this day?

Perhaps by marking someone for murder by drone without trial, perhaps by disappearing someone else, or perhaps by instituting - in the name of Freedom - random searches of people walking down the street?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023021135

Oh, lookee. A random Wikipedia page that suddenly says Obama is over turning a thousand year of freedom. That doesn't even fly, those freedoms didn't free the slaves, give women the right to vote, end child labor etc. But let's go back to those thrilling days of yesteryear and say that Obama is destroying the Enlightment and all of Western Civilization, Except when he's enforcing the things that Western Civilization, with all its festering wounds insist on happening aournd the world today. Anyone who doesn't know, just don't ask. You might decide to just shoot yourself.

Let's see, murdering, not allowing a trial, disappearing someone else, etc. As if it's an establshed fact.

Well it is according to Alex Jones, World Net Daily, Drudge an the other spiritual kin of this stuff. Really? Really? Given a pass as a criticism of the government or Obama? Freeperville has found a new home!

Don't worry, it'll get a lot of recs. Next thing will be the anniversies of any mass murder to attach to Obama. Let's see, St. Valentine's Day massacre, Hiroshima, or 911, Boston, after a while it's all a blur of hatred that is based on the idea that American government doesn't do anything right is a total sham, so burn it down and then utopia wll arise. Thanks, Ayn Rand, what a lovely idea.

We've already got several threads I read but didn't comment on, insisting Obama is intending to commit a holocaust and attacking anyone who didn't go along with all of that. Really?

Sounds like this place was annexed by Glennbeckistan. But hey, the big money media made it so ubiquitous, that it's just what everyone has to agree with.

Here's the image folks are looking for, this describes your view of a man following the laws you don't like. And it's straight from Glennbeckistan. But many here really do express this at DU. So how to separate the spirit of this from what's being posted at DU?

Don't bother, it can't be, just here it is:



Laws written by people you elected, or failed to elect, and then scream since you think both parties are the same, that Rand Paul is the new savior to worship at the feet of (beware if you get too low to the ground, his crew stomps on heads), and you didn't vote, won't vote, will never vote again, never, ever, ever.

And are too proud to work in a precinct to change the government, because that's just piddling worthless shit. Any person that advises that is a partisan hack like me and not at all cool.

So let's not be partisan, not support the platform of a social safety net and equal ritghts. Let is all go rot, it's not good enough anymore. The same who wailed and left the party because of CPI, now found another cause. And after that it will be another one, and another. The Koch brothers have enough money to influence the media, and they are so proud of their success.

Let's all sit at home and cry. And cry we will, because there are real partisans who will definitely show up at every local meeting and vote in every election. The ones who steal the rights of people daily, but those don't matter as we revel in the coming of ragnarok at DU.

Nah, only civil 'liberties' matter, not hose for the others.

So many want government to disappear to save that freedom, liberty, life, etc. Grover Nordquist and Charles Koch want the same thing along with the heroes of the Libertarians that are being worshipped here.

How did it happen that all the rest that these evil fucks did, do now and intend to do, just doesn't matter? Why continue to denigrate Obama and all government, with no solution being offered, which is what the Becks and their crew want? Think the church and corporations will protect the rights of Americans then? Or will they suddenly go away when the government is gone? Does it look like they are giving up right now, and only barely held back by that awful government, and Obama?

Looking at the big picture, too many are not interested in improving government, despise every single person that works in it. That's the source material for this dreckt.
And we're called Obamabots, asskissers, authoritarian swooners, cheerleaders, groupspeakers worshippers, sheeple, mindless drones of the state when the voice of the Koch Left to Right media machine rules this place?

Pot, meet kettle. But it's not that simple, either. It's not like the GOP and Democratic Party platforms are sports teams here. They are not the same, except to Alex Jones, Patriot Movement, David Duke and the Paulites, and the Libertarians. They want the government gone.

They want a theocracy based on their view of liberty, which will truly make the rest of us slaves and are working to create poverty, discrimination, steal the rights of women and minorities, make everything unaccountable through privatization.

The two parties and these entities, are not the same. I guess while the conservative owned media says to go bonkers over their latest creation, like the Tea Party before, we should just forget civil rights in this country.




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I trust President Obama [View all] Uzair Jun 2013 OP
did you forget this? hobbit709 Jun 2013 #1
I sure hope he/she did.. choie Jun 2013 #4
+1 LWolf Jun 2013 #42
....... Are_grits_groceries Jun 2013 #2
+1 demmiblue Jun 2013 #7
And do you trust all Presidents who ever come after him? dkf Jun 2013 #3
No, I don't. Uzair Jun 2013 #31
If you're seriously that curious theaocp Jun 2013 #48
Of course not. But why will anything that happens during this administration pnwmom Jun 2013 #137
A cheney II maladministration would not care about anything he would have done to prevent Amonester Jun 2013 #140
I like President Obama but your op is pure propaganda and ridiculous syncophancy cali Jun 2013 #5
-1 graham4anything Jun 2013 #9
Speaking of ridiculous sycophancy MNBrewer Jun 2013 #18
I'll see your -1 premium Jun 2013 #116
+1000 darkangel218 Jun 2013 #12
The OP is the weekly "we love Obama" propaganda posted in GD. I am not sure why they rhett o rick Jun 2013 #20
good to have something offset the 'we hate Obama' propaganda every half hour. nt Whisp Jun 2013 #23
You do have something to offset that, its call the BOG bahrbearian Jun 2013 #24
95% of the democratic party strongly supports Barack Obama. Personally, that is 100% of graham4anything Jun 2013 #38
Maybe there should be an Edward Snowden group pnwmom Jun 2013 #138
Where should it be allowed? Uzair Jun 2013 #26
We get a number of these types of posts that appear to me to be aimed rhett o rick Jun 2013 #39
They should do this on Sunday's only ...the day of worship. L0oniX Jun 2013 #86
LMAO!!!! darkangel218 Jun 2013 #94
You owe me a new keyboard. dgibby Jun 2013 #95
DUZY! Demeter Jun 2013 #102
Second the +1000 truebluegreen Jun 2013 #22
So it's sycophancy to have the opinion treestar Jun 2013 #34
When it's said over and over it becomes propaganda. nm rhett o rick Jun 2013 #40
Both sides of the board do that. nt treestar Jun 2013 #62
No they dont. Both side definitely squabble about issues and policies. And rhett o rick Jun 2013 #75
no. didn't say that. cali Jun 2013 #65
+1 L0oniX Jun 2013 #84
+1000, this blind 100% support is as bad as the GOP did for BUSH. Embarrassing. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #108
How much are you clocking per hour from this nonsense? darkangel218 Jun 2013 #6
oh you nasty hater, you. cali Jun 2013 #8
lol darkangel218 Jun 2013 #11
So what if you have the right? Uzair Jun 2013 #30
God and Jesus get criticized a lot and they did more good shit than Obama HangOnKids Jun 2013 #77
It's one thing to say we can legitimately criticize him, Occulus Jun 2013 #114
The wallets of the majority of Americans outright disagree with you. I'd really love it Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #134
You do nothing but criticize treestar Jun 2013 #46
Dredging up old stories and any anniversary to not criticize PBO but to accuse him of heinous crimes freshwest Jun 2013 #117
OMG they really think the Magna Carta one would fly? treestar Jun 2013 #121
+ 1000 JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #132
+1 graham4anything Jun 2013 #10
Tough call.... but there is some logic. jessie04 Jun 2013 #13
"I don't think there will ever be American boots on the ground." Laelth Jun 2013 #14
Every issue is not about "Obama." DirkGently Jun 2013 #15
Didn't another Democrat in the Oval Office famously say MNBrewer Jun 2013 #21
It's the Complaint Desk. Doesn't mean the President IS every issue. DirkGently Jun 2013 #27
I'm not saying it is all and always and only about Obama MNBrewer Jun 2013 #29
He's required to field the calls. But, for example, pushing him DirkGently Jun 2013 #35
True, the Surveillance State is well entrenched MNBrewer Jun 2013 #37
The OP does not say that there is anyone who deserves no criticism treestar Jun 2013 #50
"I cannot name one thing he has earned true criticism for," DirkGently Jun 2013 #52
So you find that impossible? treestar Jun 2013 #57
Yes. (nt). DirkGently Jun 2013 #70
I agree with you but... jimlup Jun 2013 #16
I trust no politician. Apophis Jun 2013 #17
All I care about is policy. tblue Jun 2013 #66
Agree. truebluegreen Jun 2013 #100
Do you trust your Congressional representation as much? MNBrewer Jun 2013 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author seaglass Jun 2013 #25
That (the FISA vote) was a telling moment. deurbano Jun 2013 #56
And I don't trust the "Drs" Paul, Glenn Bekk or any other supposed "libertarian". baldguy Jun 2013 #28
Yep. freshwest Jun 2013 #119
It would insult Obama marions ghost Jun 2013 #32
Some people just don't like anyone who is in power treestar Jun 2013 #33
More of a tango than a tangle, but whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #49
yes, it does appear that you are the one who said that treestar Jun 2013 #58
No problem whatchamacallit Jun 2013 #60
Trust... kentuck Jun 2013 #36
This crap thrown at him is not criticism Progressive dog Jun 2013 #41
You nailed it. The basic tenets are the same. freshwest Jun 2013 #118
I trust him too. However in Jan 2017 I sure as hell don't trust that President Autumn Jun 2013 #43
That's a great point. Which, for me, makes the non-stop incessant "blame Obama" Number23 Jun 2013 #106
"I cannot name one thing he has earned true criticism for" DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #44
Not to mention extra judiciary execution of American citizens and dgibby Jun 2013 #96
In a democracy it is the reponsiibility of the people to hold its public servants accountable. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #45
Did you actually use the phrase "the greater good" Fearless Jun 2013 #47
"The greater good" Hong Kong Cavalier Jun 2013 #89
EXACTLY!! Fearless Jun 2013 #111
I trust no politician. Absolutely none. n/t NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #51
My lord nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #53
the one common thing i've noticed about the most trustworthy people i've known markiv Jun 2013 #54
Your trust and a couple of bucks might buy a bad cup of coffee somewhere. TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #55
What saddens me is JoeyT Jun 2013 #59
'And I didn't really want to bring race into the discussion' markiv Jun 2013 #61
It's truly disgusting that so many of the President's most ardent supporters/defenders here cali Jun 2013 #69
if any good has come out of this, it's markiv Jun 2013 #71
You shouldn't. Paralipsis is a well known rhetorical technique. JVS Jun 2013 #103
I totally agree Buzz505 Jun 2013 #63
"I cannot name one thing he has earned true criticism for, I really can't." woo me with science Jun 2013 #64
I reckon the OP's POV is all of that is either good, well intentioned, or he was forced by secret TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #68
Well, we're dealing with a special type of loyalty... woo me with science Jun 2013 #73
Damnation! TM99 Jun 2013 #126
Well, if you're gonna be picky tblue Jun 2013 #72
"Well, if you're gonna be picky." woo me with science Jun 2013 #74
You have a good start there for a slogan" the reality creating community" can use to silence dissent Dragonfli Jun 2013 #78
Dad always said - Never trust a politician. Dad 840high Jun 2013 #67
Loyalty is only a short step from delusional. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #76
The genius behind the "I trust ..." bumper-sticker logic is it can be reused with the next president AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #79
LOL avaistheone1 Jun 2013 #127
You trust a man that let Wall Street off the hook and yet sicks his dogs on medical marijuana Downtown Hound Jun 2013 #80
You trust a man who looks and sounds like a Koch? ucrdem Jun 2013 #93
"sounds like a Koch"? Skeeter Barnes Jun 2013 #104
You didn't! Chastised for noticing that once. But both are Libertarians, the new sacred cows at DU. freshwest Jun 2013 #122
triplets even ucrdem Jun 2013 #125
Too creepy! Is it inevitable that we will be ruled by this guy? freshwest Jun 2013 #128
bwahaha. ucrdem Jun 2013 #129
+1 JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #133
Went to your link JustAnotherGen Jun 2013 #135
Plus 1! K & R! Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #81
Try to think a little bigger tavalon Jun 2013 #82
Is this what a government shill looks like? L0oniX Jun 2013 #83
I think lot's here feel that way. That's why they're here. nt ucrdem Jun 2013 #91
really backwoodsbob Jun 2013 #85
Ever since the billh58 Jun 2013 #87
I don't trust any politician. bigwillq Jun 2013 #88
There was a period in 2009 where I had my doubts. ucrdem Jun 2013 #90
Ah lets wait and see Dr Fate engage you again HangOnKids Jun 2013 #98
I see him for what he is. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2013 #92
There have probably been essays written on the subject of Presidential Trust ever since the bike man Jun 2013 #97
I stand with Barack Obama OmahaBlueDog Jun 2013 #99
Obama is NO criminal. Security is his number 1 concern. NaturalCommunist Jun 2013 #101
Please HangOnKids Jun 2013 #110
The people who are saying he's "lying" to get the country into war with Syria just make me Number23 Jun 2013 #105
of course you do... RetroLounge Jun 2013 #107
I Need To Join You RL HangOnKids Jun 2013 #109
Really? EVERY ONE?? DiverDave Jun 2013 #112
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #113
Did you forget your meds when writing this tripe? Daniel537 Jun 2013 #115
i trust him also except for the spying crap and a few other things Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #120
I trust my County Tax Assessor Taverner Jun 2013 #123
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #124
I hate the 470X income inequality gap which has not changed one bit on Obama's watch. Fire Walk With Me Jun 2013 #130
+1000 OP mwrguy Jun 2013 #131
This OP is exhibit A of what happens when quinnox Jun 2013 #136
the naive is strong in this one...... bowens43 Jun 2013 #139
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