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In reply to the discussion: Naomi Wolf calls bullshit on the Snowden story [View all]ellennelle
(614 posts)i've been skeptical about snowden from the beginning. mainly because of the timing; mainly because of the scandal pile-on the rightwing has been pumping for weeks now, but even more because manning will be made a hero and a martyr, and we can't have that now, can we?
those of you concerned about rand paul and teabaggers and that ilk, really??? you believe those shallow benchers, those thin substance and weak argument peapickers, those flybynight idiots could pull off something this sophisticated and complex and INSIDE???
your aim is way off. check out those who are weighing in - like ari fleischer and cheney - and how they are all trumpeting how this rehabilitates and vindicates W!
this kind of operation - if naomi is right - requires tremendous coordination and forethought and intricate chess move kind of planning, and most importantly it requires not just someONE but a whole structure working from the inside. the kind of structure cheney put in place over the past two-plus decades. what is the NSA but just such an operation? and who has his tentacles dug eyeball deep in that whole process more than cheney?
like i said, i was quickly wary; where was snowden's lawyer and why had greenwald and the filmmaker not insisted he have one with him? the hong kong story did not ring true, and the girlfriend - again, really??? her posts were clearly written by a man trying to sound like a forlorn young woman; gag.
of course, someone planning and monitoring this - like a real producer - would have to see that some cheesy and questionable stuff be thrown in there to make it real; squeaky clean would never fly. and, here's the kicker for me, the scandal would have to involve a topic EVERYONE is on board with, not one that divides the citizenry. pretty much across the board, folks don't like the snooping (now, tho everyone got in line in '01 of course), and it's the one aspect of DHS and NSA want most to nail down. as naomi says, it's the snooping that gets ya. anyone here ever see the lives of others?
i think naomi may be on to something;