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mike_c

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4. 99.9% of the data should never be collected in the first place....

Sun Jun 16, 2013, 12:03 PM

Jun 2013

Sorry, I don't want to live in a panopticon, regardless of whether the "authorities" pay close attention to the data they gather about us.

Do I think the government reads my email? Not likely. Do I think they copy and store it so they can read it later if they develop an interest in me? Damned straight. That data is one informant away from percolating to the forefront of the authorities' attention, one crime away, in a country that has become so law-bound that everyone of us commits crimes of some sort all the time, one election away, if the leadership swings authoritarian.

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Ed Snowden fled to China, so it's OK for the NSA to spy on us.... [View all] mike_c Jun 2013 OP

And Nadler Confirms That The Public NSA Story And Private NSA Story Do Not Agree cantbeserious Jun 2013 #1

do you really think the government has read your email?? MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #2

99.9% of the data should never be collected in the first place.... mike_c Jun 2013 #4

Excellent post. woo me with science Jun 2013 #8

+ infinity magellan Jun 2013 #12

Exactly. The seizing of our communications, JimDandy Jun 2013 #14

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #16

and yet most of us willingly Abukhatar Jun 2013 #21

Two items on the government checklist: Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #22

Yes we have voluntarily given info usually with stipulations of privacy settings. snappyturtle Jun 2013 #23

yeah like private companies got your welfare in mind Abukhatar Jun 2013 #26

The point is we voluntarily gave info to private companies. We did not give snappyturtle Jun 2013 #33

Nor have we given permission for one private company to hand it over to another private company! cascadiance Jun 2013 #42

Great points! Unfortunately, changing anything in the Constitution snappyturtle Jun 2013 #59

That is our choice and those companies are NOT the government Marrah_G Jun 2013 #60

++++1 You're pointing out the dangers that many cannot/don't want to see. Thanks. nt snappyturtle Jun 2013 #24

Aweesomely brief and accurate. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #28

Just wondering though what exact legal protection does email have though? cstanleytech Jun 2013 #34

Well said, thank you. n/t MuseRider Jun 2013 #35

You got it, Mike. n/t 99Forever Jun 2013 #44

99.9% of it is never looked at by humans, Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #61

That data is none of the governments business neverforget Jun 2013 #20

Maybe, maybe not, but Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #30

It is wrong whether or not they are reading some particular person's e-mails. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #45

Much better to be stored indefinitely and "processed" as loyalty fads emerge. Pholus Jun 2013 #52

He was also a bad neighbor and fudged his resume Doctor_J Jun 2013 #3

Those who are invested in cults of personality aren't able to process the fact DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #5

The cult of Snowden started two minutes after his name came to light treestar Jun 2013 #48

Careful.... davidpdx Jun 2013 #54

Have fun with that Progressive dog Jun 2013 #6

Not about him...it's about US JimDandy Jun 2013 #15

I understood, the original OP didn't Progressive dog Jun 2013 #18

Thank you. It's been just plain jaw-dropping amazing to witness how many DUers are so gleefully scarletwoman Jun 2013 #7

But..but..we can trust those great defenders of privacy at the NSA 'cuz their neighbors like them. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #9

LOL... JimDandy Jun 2013 #19

K&R This whole incident is also revealing woo me with science Jun 2013 #10

McCarthyist witchhunting is the usual diversion in these cases. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #11

No, it's not "OK for the NSA to spy on us" ProSense Jun 2013 #13

I am ashamed of many on the left. Rovians, and it sucks. 20score Jun 2013 #17

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #25

We need a term. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #27

I just call them quislings... backscatter712 Jun 2013 #36

I'm using Rovians. Same tactics and convoluted logic. 20score Jun 2013 #37

swooners Skittles Jun 2013 #43

Of course it's about people, not issues treestar Jun 2013 #47

sycophant? paulk Jun 2013 #58

BOXES! Don't forget the fucking boxes in his garage! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #29

Your subject line and the pole dancer remark are way batty Kolesar Jun 2013 #31

They are two different issues... both worthy of discussion. DCBob Jun 2013 #32

Is it possible Turbineguy Jun 2013 #38

See this post Caretha Jun 2013 #56

That and after watching Bill Moyers last night, Turbineguy Jun 2013 #64

Thanks, sums up nicely some thoughts I have been have as well,. Civilization2 Jun 2013 #39

It's far worse for him to breach the privacy of the government and corporations carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #40

+1 MNBrewer Jun 2013 #50

used to be that going from HS to a trade was part of the American Dream... nashville_brook Jun 2013 #41

Who said any such thing? treestar Jun 2013 #46

When? a2liberal Jun 2013 #49

I Stand For Liberty From Surveillance Tyranny cantbeserious Jun 2013 #51

No, no no.....you're missing the point. vi5 Jun 2013 #53

Sorry, I dont agree rtracey Jun 2013 #55

Dafuq I just read... NorthCarolina Jun 2013 #57

No, he's lying to people about his background, has a fucked up story of WHY he went to China, was... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #62

Deep Throat hid for decades stupidicus Jun 2013 #63