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hunter

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23. Someday I'd like to live in an entirely transparent democracy.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Sun Jun 16, 2013, 10:16 PM

Jun 2013

I think such a democracy wouldn't NEED to keep any secrets.

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In a democracy, do not elected officials have a right to keep secrets from the people? [View all] kentuck Jun 2013 OP

If secrets are kept, it's no longer a democracy, because the data to make a thoughtful choice PDJane Jun 2013 #1

kept, is the key word RobertEarl Jun 2013 #4

A thoughtful, reasonable response.. kentuck Jun 2013 #5

I think you are drawing a reasonable line here n/t Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #9

secrets, yes burnodo Jun 2013 #2

Not if they are bugging all of us or within an interpretation of infringing on our rights dkf Jun 2013 #3

In a representative democracy we elect executives and legislators to act on our behalf FarCenter Jun 2013 #6

But... kentuck Jun 2013 #7

I think this kind of spying (if it is going on) is a special case... cascadiance Jun 2013 #10

Well said. kentuck Jun 2013 #16

The congress has delegated oversight of intelligence to the Select Committees on Intelligence FarCenter Jun 2013 #11

And from whom does the "Gang of Eight" get the secrets?? kentuck Jun 2013 #18

50 USC � 413b - Presidential approval and reporting of covert actions FarCenter Jun 2013 #20

Thanks a lot! kentuck Jun 2013 #24

and upon being elected, they are sworn burnodo Jun 2013 #12

What law makes that a crime? FarCenter Jun 2013 #14

spying on citizens without cause? burnodo Jun 2013 #15

What section of the United States Code is that? FarCenter Jun 2013 #17

I think you may be far center right? kentuck Jun 2013 #19

The way I look at it Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #8

There is a difference between keeping secrets and collecting data on every American citizen davidn3600 Jun 2013 #13

How so? kentuck Jun 2013 #21

Here is the problem as I see it: The Straight Story Jun 2013 #22

Someday I'd like to live in an entirely transparent democracy. hunter Jun 2013 #23

There is no right in a democracy to keep the peoples business from them. bemildred Jun 2013 #25

I would agree that there is way, way too much secrecy. kentuck Jun 2013 #26

Secrecy is a privilege we allow the government, not something the government has a right to. bemildred Jun 2013 #28

They are not keeping secrets from the people treestar Jun 2013 #27

That's a matter of perspective, I would think. kentuck Jun 2013 #30

They have to be secret of necessity I would think treestar Jun 2013 #35

What kind of information should be kept secret? backscatter712 Jun 2013 #29

The intelligence community is just like most of today's politicians... kentuck Jun 2013 #31

I respectfully disagree. PragmaticLiberal Jun 2013 #32

Perhaps I should have said the "leaders in the intelligence community"? kentuck Jun 2013 #33

Actually, I think most politicians probably have noble intentions..at least initially. PragmaticLiberal Jun 2013 #34

The real question today is, "Do we?" usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #36