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cali

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38. thanks.

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:43 AM

Jun 2013

yes, there's a need for greater oversight. My Senator certainly thinks so. He's said so for years now. And he may well be one of the most informed members of Congress re oversight of the National Security Agencies.

In the past, oversight by Congress has not proven effective in preventing abuses. Nominal oversight does not necessarily mean effective oversight.

In addition, I think the American people should have greater information as to what Congressional oversight entails as well as being informed on such things as number of those employed by NSA and budgets.

We need an expanded discussion about the national security agencies.

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It baffles me. Given the history of the NSA and the CIA [View all] cali Jun 2013 OP

We gave that job to Congress. jeff47 Jun 2013 #1

those would be the briefings at which they get lied to dsc Jun 2013 #2

No, I'm talking about the classified ones jeff47 Jun 2013 #5

and again dsc Jun 2013 #8

Because it's your fucking job to perform oversight jeff47 Jun 2013 #13

how can you oversee what you don't know about dsc Jun 2013 #16

Thank you dsc, nenagh Jun 2013 #17

I agree that Congress should end NSA funding Sherman A1 Jun 2013 #23

Double thank you. nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #27

It is that simple. reusrename Jun 2013 #29

By showing up for the briefings, so you do know about it. jeff47 Jun 2013 #43

Mr. Clapper had that question for at least one entire whole day before dsc Jun 2013 #46

"Least untruthful answer." secondvariety Jun 2013 #25

we gave the job of thinking for ourselves to Congress? Maybe YOU did. I sure as cali Jun 2013 #9

No, we gave the job of oversight to congress. jeff47 Jun 2013 #12

delude yourself to your heart's content. We didn't give Congress cali Jun 2013 #19

Congress is our representatives. jeff47 Jun 2013 #42

congress has a 10% approval rating. cali Jun 2013 #45

and a multi, multi billion dollar annual budget Catherina Jun 2013 #3

Their Annual Budget is CLASSIFIED n/t usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #4

Nope. jeff47 Jun 2013 #7

yes, their total anual budget is classified (LINK) usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #10

And entirely contained within the budget I linked. (nt) jeff47 Jun 2013 #11

yeah, sure usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #20

They made a change in 2010. The Intel budget was 80 billion USD in 2010 Catherina Jun 2013 #18

Though I don't doubt it is way too high, I would argue that it is potentially even larger than that usGovOwesUs3Trillion Jun 2013 #21

I don't doubt it either. We'll never really know Catherina Jun 2013 #24

Here's another link "Our Insanely Big $1 Trillion National Security Budget" Catherina Jun 2013 #26

Sure you are. reusrename Jun 2013 #30

Lol! I swear it's embedded in there! it's just not showing Catherina Jun 2013 #40

Yeah? Well we need to rein in entitlement spending or we'll never balance the budget. Enthusiast Jun 2013 #28

Everyone knows you are right. Some people are driven by agendas to deflect. reformist2 Jun 2013 #6

Far too many people. And even more hesitate to call them on it. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #14

PROPAGANDA. woo me with science Jun 2013 #15

TRUST US. blkmusclmachine Jun 2013 #22

...because you work there. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #31

because I work where? cali Jun 2013 #35

"why wouldn't you be skeptical of what they do..." same 'you'. i assumed *you* weren't HiPointDem Jun 2013 #36

So you don't trust the courts. You don't trust Congress for oversight. randome Jun 2013 #32

I trust the lessons of history. actual, factual history cali Jun 2013 #33

You're right, it was an inane remark and I apologize. randome Jun 2013 #37

thanks. cali Jun 2013 #38

Yeah, I don't see the point in keeping budgets and employment numbers secret. randome Jun 2013 #39

How's that congressional oversight coming? Boehner to the rescue? Comrade Grumpy Jun 2013 #44

I Think the Key Word RobinA Jun 2013 #34

Ignorance is bliss and Apathy is paradise Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #41

dont forget the +/- 400 journalists that were agents or unpaid collaborators Monkie Jun 2013 #47