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Turbineguy

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64. That and after watching Bill Moyers last night,

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Mon Jun 17, 2013, 11:32 AM

Jun 2013

Snowden's options were limited.

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Ed Snowden fled to China, so it's OK for the NSA to spy on us.... [View all] mike_c Jun 2013 OP

And Nadler Confirms That The Public NSA Story And Private NSA Story Do Not Agree cantbeserious Jun 2013 #1

do you really think the government has read your email?? MjolnirTime Jun 2013 #2

99.9% of the data should never be collected in the first place.... mike_c Jun 2013 #4

Excellent post. woo me with science Jun 2013 #8

+ infinity magellan Jun 2013 #12

Exactly. The seizing of our communications, JimDandy Jun 2013 #14

+ 1,000,000,000... What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #16

and yet most of us willingly Abukhatar Jun 2013 #21

Two items on the government checklist: Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #22

Yes we have voluntarily given info usually with stipulations of privacy settings. snappyturtle Jun 2013 #23

yeah like private companies got your welfare in mind Abukhatar Jun 2013 #26

The point is we voluntarily gave info to private companies. We did not give snappyturtle Jun 2013 #33

Nor have we given permission for one private company to hand it over to another private company! cascadiance Jun 2013 #42

Great points! Unfortunately, changing anything in the Constitution snappyturtle Jun 2013 #59

That is our choice and those companies are NOT the government Marrah_G Jun 2013 #60

++++1 You're pointing out the dangers that many cannot/don't want to see. Thanks. nt snappyturtle Jun 2013 #24

Aweesomely brief and accurate. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #28

Just wondering though what exact legal protection does email have though? cstanleytech Jun 2013 #34

Well said, thank you. n/t MuseRider Jun 2013 #35

You got it, Mike. n/t 99Forever Jun 2013 #44

99.9% of it is never looked at by humans, Ms. Toad Jun 2013 #61

That data is none of the governments business neverforget Jun 2013 #20

Maybe, maybe not, but Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #30

It is wrong whether or not they are reading some particular person's e-mails. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #45

Much better to be stored indefinitely and "processed" as loyalty fads emerge. Pholus Jun 2013 #52

He was also a bad neighbor and fudged his resume Doctor_J Jun 2013 #3

Those who are invested in cults of personality aren't able to process the fact DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #5

The cult of Snowden started two minutes after his name came to light treestar Jun 2013 #48

Careful.... davidpdx Jun 2013 #54

Have fun with that Progressive dog Jun 2013 #6

Not about him...it's about US JimDandy Jun 2013 #15

I understood, the original OP didn't Progressive dog Jun 2013 #18

Thank you. It's been just plain jaw-dropping amazing to witness how many DUers are so gleefully scarletwoman Jun 2013 #7

But..but..we can trust those great defenders of privacy at the NSA 'cuz their neighbors like them. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #9

LOL... JimDandy Jun 2013 #19

K&R This whole incident is also revealing woo me with science Jun 2013 #10

McCarthyist witchhunting is the usual diversion in these cases. backscatter712 Jun 2013 #11

No, it's not "OK for the NSA to spy on us" ProSense Jun 2013 #13

I am ashamed of many on the left. Rovians, and it sucks. 20score Jun 2013 #17

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #25

We need a term. Savannahmann Jun 2013 #27

I just call them quislings... backscatter712 Jun 2013 #36

I'm using Rovians. Same tactics and convoluted logic. 20score Jun 2013 #37

swooners Skittles Jun 2013 #43

Of course it's about people, not issues treestar Jun 2013 #47

sycophant? paulk Jun 2013 #58

BOXES! Don't forget the fucking boxes in his garage! Vinnie From Indy Jun 2013 #29

Your subject line and the pole dancer remark are way batty Kolesar Jun 2013 #31

They are two different issues... both worthy of discussion. DCBob Jun 2013 #32

Is it possible Turbineguy Jun 2013 #38

See this post Caretha Jun 2013 #56

That and after watching Bill Moyers last night, Turbineguy Jun 2013 #64

Thanks, sums up nicely some thoughts I have been have as well,. Civilization2 Jun 2013 #39

It's far worse for him to breach the privacy of the government and corporations carolinayellowdog Jun 2013 #40

+1 MNBrewer Jun 2013 #50

used to be that going from HS to a trade was part of the American Dream... nashville_brook Jun 2013 #41

Who said any such thing? treestar Jun 2013 #46

When? a2liberal Jun 2013 #49

I Stand For Liberty From Surveillance Tyranny cantbeserious Jun 2013 #51

No, no no.....you're missing the point. vi5 Jun 2013 #53

Sorry, I dont agree rtracey Jun 2013 #55

Dafuq I just read... NorthCarolina Jun 2013 #57

No, he's lying to people about his background, has a fucked up story of WHY he went to China, was... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #62

Deep Throat hid for decades stupidicus Jun 2013 #63