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In reply to the discussion: Remember the bank loan modification nightmare that cost millions their homes? BOMBSHELL: [View all]mzmolly
(52,780 posts)156. It's criminal. I posted some HAMP advice in Oct of 2010 on DU.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x9318881
In a nutshell I said ...
In a nutshell I said ...
As a person who has worked in the financial industry for years, and who has gone through the HAMP process, I have a few bits of *advice for anyone going through the HAMP process, today:
1. Most importantly, make full payments vs. the reduced "trial payments" until your loan modification is finalized, in writing. ~ IMO, some banks use a "reduced trial payment" as a means to a nefarious end. If you're making a reduced monthly payment, you're not meeting the terms of your original, signed, mortgage agreement. As such, you can be a victim of foreclosure if/when the bank fails to finalize a modification.
When I insisted on making full payments until our lender finalized our modification, I was asked "if you can afford the full payments why are you applying for a modification?" I told them the truth, we rob from Peter to pay Paul. I went on to say that it wasn't any of their !@#* business, given technically, we qualified for a modification and have been honest about our financial situation.
2. Prepare to have your tax documentation lost. ~ For some reason, I've heard several stories about lost tax documentation. The bank we dealt with lost our documentation three or four times. Get a name and a fax number of a person who is responsible for handling such documentation, and demand that bank personnel call you when they receive faxed copies. Make sure that someone takes ownership and you follow up.
3. Correspond by email or mail vs. phone so you have legal documentation regarding what you're being told. ~ Keep all correspondence (emails) until your loan is finalized and beyond. Saying "I spoke to Bob and he said..." will not be enough. Get everything you're told, in writing.
4. If you're told delays in finalization are due to Fannie Mac or Freddie Mae, not the bank, get Fannie or Freddie involved ASAP. Make a three way phone call, if you have to. Or, email a rep from each company and ask that they properly coordinate to resolve your issue.
5. Follow up on your final modification for at least three months. Make sure your due date and payment amounts are correct etc. Our lender tried to change our due date, so we were a month behind after we finalized. I have no idea why. But I insisted they make it right and I monitor monthly.
*I'm not an attorney and not in a position to legally advise anyone. I am merely a person who worked in finance for years, who has completed a successful modification. Best of luck to anyone seeking relief through HAMP.
1. Most importantly, make full payments vs. the reduced "trial payments" until your loan modification is finalized, in writing. ~ IMO, some banks use a "reduced trial payment" as a means to a nefarious end. If you're making a reduced monthly payment, you're not meeting the terms of your original, signed, mortgage agreement. As such, you can be a victim of foreclosure if/when the bank fails to finalize a modification.
When I insisted on making full payments until our lender finalized our modification, I was asked "if you can afford the full payments why are you applying for a modification?" I told them the truth, we rob from Peter to pay Paul. I went on to say that it wasn't any of their !@#* business, given technically, we qualified for a modification and have been honest about our financial situation.
2. Prepare to have your tax documentation lost. ~ For some reason, I've heard several stories about lost tax documentation. The bank we dealt with lost our documentation three or four times. Get a name and a fax number of a person who is responsible for handling such documentation, and demand that bank personnel call you when they receive faxed copies. Make sure that someone takes ownership and you follow up.
3. Correspond by email or mail vs. phone so you have legal documentation regarding what you're being told. ~ Keep all correspondence (emails) until your loan is finalized and beyond. Saying "I spoke to Bob and he said..." will not be enough. Get everything you're told, in writing.
4. If you're told delays in finalization are due to Fannie Mac or Freddie Mae, not the bank, get Fannie or Freddie involved ASAP. Make a three way phone call, if you have to. Or, email a rep from each company and ask that they properly coordinate to resolve your issue.
5. Follow up on your final modification for at least three months. Make sure your due date and payment amounts are correct etc. Our lender tried to change our due date, so we were a month behind after we finalized. I have no idea why. But I insisted they make it right and I monitor monthly.
*I'm not an attorney and not in a position to legally advise anyone. I am merely a person who worked in finance for years, who has completed a successful modification. Best of luck to anyone seeking relief through HAMP.
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Remember the bank loan modification nightmare that cost millions their homes? BOMBSHELL: [View all]
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
OP
People Seriously Need To See the Inside Of a Jail Cell Over This Stuff, Ma'am
The Magistrate
Jun 2013
#1
If anyone does, it'll just be low-level minions. The real crooks hobnob with Holder and Obama.
MotherPetrie
Jun 2013
#3
I would be happy if enough "little people" simply stop using the big banks.
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
#12
I have a relative who works for a competitor and she's never seen anything like this.
pnwmom
Jun 2013
#19
The last time that a Democratic governor ordered Illinois govt agencies to stop doing business with
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#38
Thank you for that tid bit of news. SO glad banks are still losing customers.
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
#82
I never mind waiting at my community bank.. and they recognize my voice when I call them
SoCalDem
Jun 2013
#133
We need another Bank Transfer Day, where folks switch from banks to credit unions.
Zorra
Jun 2013
#85
That will only happen if we all leave these banks. Find your local credit union.
lindysalsagal
Jun 2013
#118
Sorry. Our government will decide that a fine of $3.30 will sufficiently penalize BofA.
Kablooie
Jun 2013
#49
The way it can change (although not likely til things hit bottom) is to demand,
Dustlawyer
Jun 2013
#88
We KNEW it, didn't we? All along we kept saying this is what they were doing.
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
#4
This is truly a bombshell. But how much do you want to bet it sinks into oblivion and no one is
Squinch
Jun 2013
#5
He'll do it just as soon as he puts Bush/Chaney/Rice/Rummy on trial as a war criminals.
Auntie Bush
Jun 2013
#27
Holder could act today if he gave a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut about anything
Bluenorthwest
Jun 2013
#80
"You must miss payments to qualify for loan adjustments." This was said across the country.
Fire Walk With Me
Jun 2013
#44
Typical - you put the burden on individual homeowners, not Obama's Justice Department.
Divernan
Jun 2013
#147
Anyone who has lost home to BOA because of HAMP, should check out your link.
dixiegrrrrl
Jun 2013
#32
Does anyone else notice that the "Obama Club" doesnt show up for these types of threads? nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#48
Oh plez. This post isnt about outrage and isnt critical of the president. nm
rhett o rick
Jun 2013
#93
I noticed. I think they only go into action when the polls show that an issue might hurt him. ;)
reformist2
Jun 2013
#100
I don't believe consumer deposits are that critical to them at this point.
TheKentuckian
Jun 2013
#143
My friend was one of the people lied to about her loan modification request, not by BOA, by Wells
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#60
This is par for the course; we are in year THREE of battling with Wells Fargo.
VPStoltz
Jun 2013
#81
I'll bet you a million dollars they didn't lose s#@t. They threw them away. They don't
okaawhatever
Jun 2013
#112
And Where Is Obama And His Justice Department Over This Continuing Scandal?
cantbeserious
Jun 2013
#127
Take big-donor money out of campaigns to keep the corporate-sponsored candidates out of office.
pacalo
Jun 2013
#128
However, the Obama/Holder/Geithner Administration let us know some time ago
truedelphi
Jun 2013
#140