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TheKentuckian

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50. By the time you care, it will way too late to do anything about it, if we ever hear about it at all

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 05:02 PM

Jun 2013

due to the secrecy. Many could have already been victimized as you outline and there is no way to prove it because we don't have access supporting information and they are just lumped in with anyone else facing similar charges.

You talk about running lights like law enforcement doesn't do so all the time (in addition to EMS and Fire flicking on the lights and sirens to go through and then resumes normal cruising).

Your entire post is a cop out that puts the burden of proof on those without access and "trust" in the hands of those holding all the cards, including ones we can neither prove or disprove are in the deck.

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AHA! Why privacy is important. I finally got it. [View all] Gregorian Jun 2013 OP

Exactly. H2O Man Jun 2013 #1

Congratulations. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #2

You got it. dkf Jun 2013 #3

dkf RobertEarl Jun 2013 #4

I'm still the same... dkf Jun 2013 #9

Welcome to our nightmare RobertEarl Jun 2013 #16

I honestly feel this is the most significant issue I will confront in my lifetime. dkf Jun 2013 #20

Hugs nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #59

You knew Nadin...when you saw occupy.... dkf Jun 2013 #63

People get it at different points in their lives. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #65

Oh, shit! JackRiddler Jun 2013 #18

Thanks. dkf Jun 2013 #28

Strange bedfellows DisgustipatedinCA Jun 2013 #37

Same here nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #60

I disagree.... uponit7771 Jun 2013 #5

No, the Gov't can be a nightmare to various people Hydra Jun 2013 #39

Correct! NutmegYankee Jun 2013 #6

+1000 darkangel218 Jun 2013 #8

The FISA court is a non elected clown possy. L0oniX Jun 2013 #7

The problem with your analysis is that the person on the street also Skidmore Jun 2013 #10

That's not quite the same. I use the word "you" as it applies to millions, not a few. Gregorian Jun 2013 #12

This is exactly right. HappyMe Jun 2013 #13

the clown with a smartphone can't put you in jail--or a gulag lastlib Jun 2013 #25

I seriously doubt anybody is HappyMe Jun 2013 #26

You're posting on DU Hydra Jun 2013 #40

If I was at all paranoid, I wouldn't be posting here. HappyMe Jun 2013 #41

That ship sailed years ago Hydra Jun 2013 #43

Drone me? HappyMe Jun 2013 #44

Sure they can. It just doesn't have bars on the doors. jeff47 Jun 2013 #45

You can sue the individual.... ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #22

And you can collect the $1.47 they have in assets. jeff47 Jun 2013 #47

Wow you must be ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #48

This is really a silly, useless comment that adds nothing to the discussion. Th1onein Jun 2013 #51

Why'd you bother to respond ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #52

I responded to enlighten you. Was of no use, though, I guess. nt Th1onein Jun 2013 #53

You'd have to know something on which to enlighten me. ohheckyeah Jun 2013 #54

LOLOL! Th1onein Jun 2013 #70

Agreed treestar Jun 2013 #67

There is no reasonable expectation of privacy in public. Motown_Johnny Jun 2013 #11

You are correct, Sir. darkangel218 Jun 2013 #15

That's the key point that so many miss. klook Jun 2013 #72

true. also, what an individual can collect VS everything the government can collect differ alc Jun 2013 #14

The G8 was being bugged. This was on Amy Goodman this morning. Gregorian Jun 2013 #17

That is so true. Thank you, and... JackRiddler Jun 2013 #19

The Boston Marathon bombings were solved by people's cell The Second Stone Jun 2013 #21

You make an excellent point: Coccydynia Jun 2013 #29

But then the government was said not to have connected the dots treestar Jun 2013 #68

Yes. LWolf Jun 2013 #23

Exactly. This is why the three-letter agencies desperately need to be leashed! n/t backscatter712 Jun 2013 #24

B. Clinton "It is what it is" Life Long Dem Jun 2013 #27

Oh wait, never mind, thought you were talking about the 2nd amendment. graham4anything Jun 2013 #30

Corporate private monsters ErikJ Jun 2013 #31

K & R !!! WillyT Jun 2013 #32

You got it. The guy with the cell phone taking pictures of the beach that you happen Cleita Jun 2013 #33

I was thinking of the next Republican administration too. Gregorian Jun 2013 #34

The Constitution is still the means that we have, but no one in power seems to think we Cleita Jun 2013 #38

This really brings back memories. And fury. Gregorian Jun 2013 #57

Same reason you don't talk with police felix_numinous Jun 2013 #35

Thank you.... midnight Jun 2013 #36

actually, I have just as much power to ruin your life hfojvt Jun 2013 #42

That's not a concerted effort on as large a scale. Gregorian Jun 2013 #49

military power is not used domestically hfojvt Jun 2013 #55

The National Guard is used domestically and has been in the past. Cleita Jun 2013 #61

DOD has now plans to work internally nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #66

By the time you care, it will way too late to do anything about it, if we ever hear about it at all TheKentuckian Jun 2013 #50

I don't see how "many" could be victimized hfojvt Jun 2013 #56

Seriously, you should read a tad more nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #64

Gotta say..this was not a challenge nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #62

dang, I had never heard of him hfojvt Jun 2013 #73

They told us none nadinbrzezinski Jun 2013 #74

Better late than never. :-) WinkyDink Jun 2013 #46

Authoritarian Smear Merchants don't see the monster bobduca Jun 2013 #58

This and more... the potential threat alone is a use of force... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #69

I would also add... BlueCheese Jun 2013 #71