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Playinghardball

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Mon Jun 17, 2013, 05:22 PM Jun 2013

'Low T': Don't fall for the hype (From Consumer Reports about low testosterone and the drugs) [View all]

Do you need to be treated for low testosterone?

Drugmakers spent more than $100 million advertising the drugs last year, but our experts aren't buying it

“Feeling like a shadow of your former self?” “Lost your appetite for romance?” If you believe the ads, the problem could be “low T,” and a daily dose of testosterone could restore your lost libido.

Drugmakers spreading the word of testosterone’s supposed wonders have spent lavishly on ads in recent years, from $14.3 million in 2011 to $107.3 million in 2012, mostly for two drugs, AndroGel 1.62% and Axiron. And the ads are working: Testosterone prescriptions—and drug company revenue from them—have skyrocketed, as shown in the chart below



But our medical experts aren’t sold. They say the benefits of testosterone are overblown and the risks underappreciated. Those risks include breast enlargement, reduced fertility, heart attacks, and possibly faster-growing prostate cancer. Women accidentally exposed to the hormone can develop male characteristics, and children can enter an early puberty. And the drugs can be expensive—up to $570 a month.

The American Urological Association is so concerned by the trend that it recently added testosterone therapy to a list of overused and potentially dangerous medical treatments, as part of campaign called Choosing Wisely.

Real risks

The ads do describe the risks. But they are spoken as you watch a vibrant middle-aged man cruising in a convertible with his lady friend, or a peppy guy canoodling with his wife in the kitchen. So it’s easy to focus instead on the prospect of feeling like a teenager again.

That’s a mistake, says John Santa, M.D., director of the Consumer Reports Health Ratings Center. “The risks are substantial,” he says. In a 2010 New England Journal of Medicine study, for example, men 65 and older with low testosterone and obesity or other conditions were treated with Testim 1%. After six months, they had increased physical strength compared with men not on the drug—but they also had more heart attacks and other cardiovascular events.

Other research suggests that the hormone might fuel the growth of prostate cancers. Established risks include blood clots in the legs, sleep apnea, an enlarged prostate, enlarged or painful breasts, and swollen feet or ankles.

Another concern is reduced sperm counts. “I see men every week who are infertile thanks to testosterone therapy,” says Craig Niederberger, M.D., head of the department of urology at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

>snip<

Our advice. There’s nothing romantic or age-defying about a drug that comes with long-term risks to you and the people you live with. Try safer ways to bring back that lovin’ feeling: Eat right, exercise, reduce stress, and have a long talk with your partner and your doctor. If you do start treatment, reassess after a few months and watch for worrisome side effects in you and those around you.

http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine/2013/07/do-you-need-to-be-treated-for-low-testosterone/index.htm

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I give Low T a High FU. Lint Head Jun 2013 #1
Well said. russspeakeasy Jun 2013 #42
So let's review. Testosterone: high risks, low discernable benefit,covered by insurance. Birth Squinch Jun 2013 #2
You can almost write the script, can't you? nt Nay Jun 2013 #5
*Sigh* Yep. Squinch Jun 2013 #9
+++ Infinity BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #17
Birth control pills were never that expensive when I was young JDPriestly Jun 2013 #33
Yep, they were cheap then. Their cost has gone up exponentially, like many other medical costs. raccoon Jun 2013 #65
The more things change... nt redqueen Jun 2013 #26
If there was ever a doubt, you are a moron. Atman Jun 2013 #3
To paraphrase Bill Maher: "first they invented a boner pill for men who wanted to fuck but couldn't" arcane1 Jun 2013 #53
Bingo Atman Jun 2013 #56
just another example of ads we no longer subject ourselves to.... NRaleighLiberal Jun 2013 #4
My dear departed father had a theory about movies: Squinch Jun 2013 #12
A very legitimate timdog44 Jun 2013 #81
Besides your beautiful tomatoes, your thought processes timdog44 Jun 2013 #36
Have you ever been in a doctor's office when the cadaverdog Jun 2013 #76
I am a retired timdog44 Jun 2013 #80
Just like HRT has been found to be dangerous for some women, blue neen Jun 2013 #6
You are correct BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #19
When women stopped buying into the need for hormone replacement therapy Marie Marie Jun 2013 #7
but they also had more heart attacks and other cardiovascular events. DJ13 Jun 2013 #8
Yep, that leapt off the page when I saw that. I wonder how many doctors warn of the risks... reformist2 Jun 2013 #18
So then your bones re-absorb and you die from pneumonia recovering from frequent broken hips, jtuck004 Jun 2013 #75
It seems that symptoms of aging have become a brand new sales pitch mzmolly Jun 2013 #10
"Alternative" medicine too flamingdem Jun 2013 #13
Certainly - they are also mzmolly Jun 2013 #59
I tried it flamingdem Jun 2013 #61
Not surprised. mzmolly Jun 2013 #69
Yep. blue neen Jun 2013 #14
we don't want to lose our flamingdem Jun 2013 #60
Don't tell anyone that drinking milk raises testosterone. tridim Jun 2013 #11
Do you have a similar list that doesn't have Joe Mercola's name on it? jmowreader Jun 2013 #57
Sorry, didn't know he was a quack. I just chose the first link that popped up in Google. tridim Jun 2013 #63
Why didn't lance just drink more milk? ret5hd Jun 2013 #79
I suffer from painful hot flashes TrogL Jun 2013 #15
Hot Flashes are a classic sign of estrogen dominance BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #22
Can't stand soy. TrogL Jun 2013 #23
Plastics such as in water bottles also mimic estrogen in the body BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #24
Do check labels. I've heard that processors are tossing soy into everything as a filler Hekate Jun 2013 #31
Yes, it's called a Niacin flush BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #44
It was awful. The places that itched also turned bright red. Hekate Jun 2013 #51
You are so right kimbutgar Jun 2013 #32
It could also be MSG BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #45
I have been aware of MSG for at least 5 years kimbutgar Jun 2013 #88
What a great story! BrotherIvan Jun 2013 #92
Naturopaths are voodoo doctors MattBaggins Jun 2013 #70
Do some googling about flax seed. It helps some with that. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2013 #38
According to NIH flax seed reduces testosterone TrogL Jun 2013 #67
Which could be why its use is predominantly among women who have problem with hot flashes jtuck004 Jun 2013 #71
*looks between legs* TrogL Jun 2013 #72
Another therapy predominantly for women. You're batting a thousand. n/t jtuck004 Jun 2013 #74
I think a complete check up and discussion with a PCP ismnotwasm Jun 2013 #16
All this has done great things for people with congential hypogonadism. Higher cost, social idiocy, jtuck004 Jun 2013 #40
It's eerily like the "fountain of youth" marketing for HRT Warpy Jun 2013 #20
So glad you mentioned this demigoddess Jun 2013 #62
Low T - I Pity The Foo! Dash87 Jun 2013 #21
Oogh. People worried about not having enough testosterone generally have too much already. (nt) Posteritatis Jun 2013 #25
What advertising is all about. hobbit709 Jun 2013 #27
"Might fuel prostate cancer"? There is no might about it, testosterone WILL fuel prostate cancer, still_one Jun 2013 #28
60 yr old men aren't supposed to fuck like teenagers NickB79 Jun 2013 #29
!!!! blue neen Jun 2013 #34
+1000. And neither are 60 yr old women. nt raccoon Jun 2013 #66
Well, I'm 57.... TrogL Jun 2013 #68
I eat well and exercise Puzzledtraveller Jun 2013 #30
Funny how that works abelenkpe Jun 2013 #43
my doc wrote a script for this for me onethatcares Jun 2013 #35
something is wrong there I pay $75.00 for a 3 month bottle of testosterone that I self inject. LiberalArkie Jun 2013 #46
Thanks for a dose of sanity in a bullshit thread by folks who know nothing emulatorloo Jun 2013 #83
Try a compounding pharmacy. winter is coming Jun 2013 #47
I figured the reason my doctor didn't onethatcares Jun 2013 #82
I self inject as well, $50.00 a month generic testosterone emulatorloo Jun 2013 #84
to all that replied to me onethatcares Jun 2013 #91
This was a valuable Public Service Announcement libodem Jun 2013 #37
There is a proven way for aging men to increase their muscle, HGH, vitality, appearance, performance eallen Jun 2013 #39
That along with a healthy diet and vitamins would put half of the medical profession out of a job nolabels Jun 2013 #64
+1000. nt NickB79 Jun 2013 #73
Unless there is a thirty year age gap janlyn Jun 2013 #41
It's not just about sex, although I can see why the commercials would give that impression. winter is coming Jun 2013 #48
Your husband likely represents the small minority who actually suffer from clear low-testosterone. Gravitycollapse Jun 2013 #49
I'm always entertained by the drug commercials. winter is coming Jun 2013 #50
Same experience/symptoms here emulatorloo Jun 2013 #85
I'm sorry you've had to deal with this health problem. winter is coming Jun 2013 #87
Low testosterone is also linked to declining intelligence. Xithras Jun 2013 #86
Everytime I hear one of those ads I think we should start calling menopause "Low E" dflprincess Jun 2013 #52
A low sperm count in men over 65 isn't necessarily a bad thing. However, the other things concern me Ian David Jun 2013 #54
any drug sold by advertising riverwalker Jun 2013 #55
Yes, and I'm sure most doctors at least get an urge to roll their eyes when patients do ask. Nimajneb Nilknarf Jun 2013 #89
I pretty much called BS on this sh*t the first time I heard it tech3149 Jun 2013 #58
Wife's a doctor. Benton D Struckcheon Jun 2013 #77
For-profit health care industry Cal Carpenter Jun 2013 #78
They've hooked 2 of the 5 guys in our shop. ileus Jun 2013 #90
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