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166. To simply say that I "don't like forced abortion" misses the point of my argument

Mon Jun 17, 2013, 07:11 PM

Jun 2013

I'll simplify it to be clear.

Pregnancy is a biological process that occurs within the body of a woman. It is that woman's right to decide what happens with her body.

I understand that you disagree with this. I understand that you feel that in the case of rape, at least, the tragedy of a victim being forced to become a parent against their will outweighs the female rapist's right to control her body. You have your opinion and I have mine. And that is fine. I just wanted to be clear that my opinion was not specifically about the concept of forced abortions.

The right of a woman, any woman, to control her body is absolute in my mind. That may trouble some. That may cause pain for some. But that doesn't mean it is the wrong thing. Sacrificing fundamental rights for an immediate benefit is a very dangerous path.

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11-Year-Old Boy Impregnates Friend�s Mom [View all] jakeXT Jun 2013 OP

Sick, sick, SICK DiverDave Jun 2013 #1

Not "get rid of that baby" Aerows Jun 2013 #16

does no one here read? TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #28

Thank goodness Aerows Jun 2013 #34

One of these days, that poor kid is going to learn about his birth parents derby378 Jun 2013 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #2

That's your response to an 11 year old being raped & exploited like this? hlthe2b Jun 2013 #8

There are ~7,000,000,000 people on this planet. Absolutely everything that you can imagine, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #21

That you make light of pedophilia says everything I (or anyone here) needs to know hlthe2b Jun 2013 #22

Yeah, well enjoy the rage. I'll be losing much sleep over your opinion, I'm sure. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #30

Nice try, but NO. undeterred Jun 2013 #31

Not trying anything. But it is reassuring to know that it is still simplicity itself to Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #44

It's curious that you had those so readily available at your fingertips Orrex Jun 2013 #48

Yeah, it took all of a minute to scroll down the page. Another curious thing Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #63

Well, I've seen your posts. Orrex Jun 2013 #68

Let me highlight the pertinent parts of your comment MattBaggins Jun 2013 #87

Why yes. I think that I made it perfectly clear that your opinion, as well as that of the rest Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #94

Posting about a child rape in Penthouse undeterred Jun 2013 #69

Swing and a fucking miss... n/t Earth_First Jun 2013 #50

So it is funny because worse things happen daily. LOL, you are a class act. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #65

So you're not going to join my fan club? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #67

sick puppy. Whisp Jun 2013 #92

I said "if the victim's parents support it." I also said Ilsa Jun 2013 #79

Don't get upset about anything because something worse may happen. Oh. Kay. uppityperson Jun 2013 #107

+1 In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #45

This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #49

Fucking disgusting Cal Carpenter Jun 2013 #53

Wow, classy. A normal person would self delete. I doubt you will. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #60

Oh, and here's another one. Oh my... Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #64

Sick post by you. No one is defending it but you. And you still are trying. Some idiots have.... Logical Jun 2013 #66

This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #70

he's the DUer that jokes about raping kids. and the jury let it stand. what a pile of shit. bettyellen Jun 2013 #78

Rape In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #3

Poor kid Aerows Jun 2013 #17

It didn't say anything about the principal calling child protective services. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #23

It's in one of the links within the article Shrek Jun 2013 #37

Thank you. My computer service is slowing me down again. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #39

After a couple of beers, safeinOhio Jun 2013 #4

You really think this is fucking funny? 11 year old raped and you make a sick joke. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #62

Jury Results aikoaiko Jun 2013 #84

The boy was raped. Why does the article's headline not indicate this? Orrex Jun 2013 #5

CNN wrote the headline mercuryblues Jun 2013 #14

I know. Orrex Jun 2013 #15

They don't call it "rape" when it's a girl victim either gollygee Jun 2013 #83

Good point--it should be called what it is in all cases Orrex Jun 2013 #86

This, exactly. The 11 year old boy did not impregnate anyone. The 36 year old woman raped the Squinch Jun 2013 #128

This stuff is common in Japanese porn. Archae Jun 2013 #6

I seriously doubt that AsahinaKimi Jun 2013 #108

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #7

This woman needs to be charged for rape boston bean Jun 2013 #9

Absolutely Aerows Jun 2013 #18

Yes. nt LWolf Jun 2013 #99

grrrrrrr SummerSnow Jun 2013 #10

I believe this might be the one time that a forced Ilsa Jun 2013 #11

Unbelievable......... ForeignandDomestic Jun 2013 #61

She's a rapist and a pedophile. Ilsa Jun 2013 #76

She is a rapist and a pedophile and woman and a human whopis01 Jun 2013 #90

So it's okay if a person has a child out there, Ilsa Jun 2013 #93

If they don't want to know - yes whopis01 Jun 2013 #116

This is about The Victim having the choice Ilsa Jun 2013 #137

Even criminals have human rights. whopis01 Jun 2013 #158

Thank you and exactly. eom uppityperson Jun 2013 #144

If a woman raped a man at gunpoint and got pregnant, the choice is STILL up to her. The pregnant uppityperson Jun 2013 #120

This isn't about her stealing from a dollar store. Ilsa Jun 2013 #136

I am saying no one should force any woman to have an abortion, period. CHOICE is choice. uppityperson Jun 2013 #143

And I'm saying when there is a victim involved, Ilsa Jun 2013 #151

There can be things put in place to not have contact. If the victim gets pg, then it is her choice. uppityperson Jun 2013 #155

So if it is the victim's choice whopis01 Jun 2013 #159

If it is the victim's choice to not be connected Ilsa Jun 2013 #165

To simply say that I "don't like forced abortion" misses the point of my argument whopis01 Jun 2013 #166

That would have the victim sacrifice his Ilsa Jun 2013 #167

That is not a fundamental right. And "An abortion, especially if medical, is noninvasive"? What? uppityperson Jun 2013 #168

Your Wiki definitions Ilsa Jun 2013 #169

Your goalpost changing does not go unnoticed. eom uppityperson Jun 2013 #170

Amen TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #150

Agree, the person raped gets to decide. cbdo2007 Jun 2013 #164

Wow. WVU Jun 2013 #12

Where in here are you reading comments Aerows Jun 2013 #19

try #2 and #4 for starters n/t TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #26

My bad Aerows Jun 2013 #33

You might take another look at replies 2 & 4 Orrex Jun 2013 #27

Sorry, I didn't get the jokes Aerows Jun 2013 #32

Yeah, we're on the same page about that. Orrex Jun 2013 #38

And it's sick as hell Aerows Jun 2013 #40

and a 4-2 jury considered it comedy gold TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #52

Good grief Aerows Jun 2013 #54

same for the other one except results 3-3 TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #58

Pretty much Aerows Jun 2013 #72

Yes, Skinner failed on the Jury system. It is basically worthless now. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #74

The jury system is a fucking joke. In the old days the Admins would have locked the POS. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #71

I would have locked a bunch of things in this thread Aerows Jun 2013 #73

yep. n-t Logical Jun 2013 #75

Hello ~ WVU In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #24

Thanks! WVU Jun 2013 #43

It's nothing to laugh about. In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #47

I was just going to say the same thing TorchTheWitch Jun 2013 #25

Thanks! WVU Jun 2013 #41

Correction. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #160

Women are horny as hell at the age B Calm Jun 2013 #13

What the hell? Aerows Jun 2013 #36

Sigh! In_The_Wind Jun 2013 #42

Are you fucking serious?? a la izquierda Jun 2013 #77

Three stooges voted to keep this post Scootaloo Jun 2013 #103

There is something so sick about the jurying in this thread Number23 Jun 2013 #119

What the fuck would you know about women? one_voice Jun 2013 #118

A woman is so horny she drugs an 11 yr old and rapes him? Good lord, it isn't about being "horny" uppityperson Jun 2013 #121

What? Texasgal Jun 2013 #134

Jesus Christ. This is not about "horny" women. MadrasT Jun 2013 #139

There are so many things wrong with that Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #161

not sex- it's called rape of a child or pedophilia sigmasix Jun 2013 #20

+1 n/t Aerows Jun 2013 #35

People need to know chervilant Jun 2013 #29

+1 ... and it's good to see people picking up on the way these things are framed redqueen Jun 2013 #110

"36-year old adult rapes 11-year old child". Nye Bevan Jun 2013 #46

Headline should read: Friend's mom rapes 11 year old boy Sanity Claws Jun 2013 #51

NZ laws are different- Present legislation stipulates the crime of rape applies only when men force Sunlei Jun 2013 #55

omg. sick. La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2013 #56

She belongs in Sudden Valley rucky Jun 2013 #57

I have 2 young sons. I find nothing hilarious or sexually titillating about this story at all. Butterbean Jun 2013 #59

That poor kid. nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #80

On an entirely different line of thought.... Bigmack Jun 2013 #81

It's child sexual abuse. End of story. n/t duffyduff Jun 2013 #82

Someone whose opinion I do respect asked me to delete my post, so it's gone. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #85

In other words, rather than remaining silent Orrex Jun 2013 #88

Oh my, a personal attack from a hall-monitor, how ever will I cope? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #96

Why don't you tell us more about how trivial you consider child rape to be? Orrex Jun 2013 #97

I don't (despite your pejorative). I consider you trivial. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #98

Well, everyone in this thread recognizes you to be a rape comedian Orrex Jun 2013 #105

Oh my, whatever shall I do? You have all been such a wonderfully tolerant and Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #111

You do indeed carry on. Orrex Jun 2013 #117

And yet, you seem to suffer from some sort of keyboard compulsion that just won't let you walk away. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #123

As a rape comedian, you have no credibility in judging others Orrex Jun 2013 #135

If I'm the comedian, why is it that I'm the one laughing at you? Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #141

I suppose you might be laughing at me because you're a simpleton Orrex Jun 2013 #147

+1,000,000,000. Thank You. Tarheel_Dem Jun 2013 #131

Thanks the gods you're here to save us from non-stories like this... kiva Jun 2013 #89

Thank whatever delusion you like. Your opinions shall remain insignificant. n/t Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #95

I'm sure they now respect you a little less. demmiblue Jun 2013 #106

I'm really impressed that you thought so much of me that you spent the time Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #112

YW... it took me approximately ten seconds, so no biggie. demmiblue Jun 2013 #115

rape is a non-story? BainsBane Jun 2013 #109

You know, not commenting on the deletion would have preserved the msanthrope Jun 2013 #113

But that would have given the impression that I give a shit what you think, Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #125

Yes--on a thread about child rape, you laughing and having fun is entirely appropriate.... msanthrope Jun 2013 #126

If you're not going to be any more creative than that the audience is going to lose interest. Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #133

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA???? Initech Jun 2013 #91

was the woman charged with Rape ? JI7 Jun 2013 #101

According to NDJ World , who also covered the story... Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #130

They really need to change that law. KitSileya Jun 2013 #156

This case seems to be sparking talks about changing it. Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #157

It is definitely a start. KitSileya Jun 2013 #163

What a bullshit law. HappyMe Jun 2013 #162

That woman deserves to be put away for a long, long time duuser5822 Jun 2013 #102

lets pray for all involved mgcgulfcoast Jun 2013 #104

Sad, but it's not a new thing. n/t AverageJoe90 Jun 2013 #114

Headline should have read-- Woman rapes 11 year old boy. MerryBlooms Jun 2013 #122

I think so! Quantess Jun 2013 #124

More on the story... Lady Freedom Returns Jun 2013 #127

The school knew and did nothing. mimi85 Jun 2013 #129

I think we all know who you mean. I'm floored by the depths of creepiness that one sank to. Squinch Jun 2013 #132

I could throw up. tblue Jun 2013 #138

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2013 #140

Shh. You must never admit that here. The arbiters of morality have spoken and no Egalitarian Thug Jun 2013 #142

Rape jokes are not funny except to rapists and their ilk. eom uppityperson Jun 2013 #145

Post removed Post removed Jun 2013 #148

If you think an eleven year old is fair game, you are pretty fucked up. demmiblue Jun 2013 #146

Thank you jurors or MIRT. uppityperson Jun 2013 #149

Yep, but it seems others have the same proclivities. demmiblue Jun 2013 #153

Yes indeed. Orrex Jun 2013 #154

"...woman gave the boy beer and then later took part in a sexual encounter with him. " alp227 Jun 2013 #152