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Hekate

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21. Persecution, starvation, a class system that kept you and your children in your place forever
Mon Jun 17, 2013, 06:14 PM
Jun 2013

The prospects of a better life were very appealing -- if not you, then for your children. Millions were willing to sacrifice the known demons for the chance at bettering themselves in an unknown land. Some returned to Europe -- but most stayed here.

PBS has done several series on the immigrant experience, by ethnic groups. They're pretty popular, because naturally people tune in to have a look at the family album, as it were. I learned some things about my Irish kin I had certainly not known before.

As for child labor, it was a terrible curse. I'm not sure when compulsory schooling really kicked in, but it was a help in diminishing child labor. Families didn't want to hurt their children, but they desperately needed every penny to buy food and pay for rent, and there were no laws against it.

The photos taken in the slums and factories were a salutary shock to the American psyche, and helped tremendously in rousing the conscience of the public. It took a long time to outlaw the practice of putting even small children to work at adult jobs, but those photographs were searing.

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What's really amazing to consider Warpy Jun 2013 #1
We've swapped places with Europe... Bigmack Jun 2013 #31
I don't think that's as true as it was before the 2008 crash Warpy Jun 2013 #39
K, R and bookmarked. Thank you n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #2
'How the other half lives' Populist_Prole Jun 2013 #3
Unions are the only things that lifted us out of that business model Orrex Jun 2013 #4
Everywhere malaise Jun 2013 #12
"funny" how so few people ever smiled in old pix like these RussBLib Jun 2013 #5
Not quite. SwissTony Jun 2013 #15
they didn't smile hfojvt Jun 2013 #20
The 1% would have us back in those pictures.. annabanana Jun 2013 #6
K&R PennsylvaniaMatt Jun 2013 #7
life looks gritty and hard Liberal_in_LA Jun 2013 #8
This is what we're headed back to. Brigid Jun 2013 #9
so that's what Reagan meant by azurnoir Jun 2013 #10
looks like some of the places I see in my city currently. blackspade Jun 2013 #11
Look at any number of big cities (and rural ones too) (Cairo Illinois pics) SoCalDem Jun 2013 #14
Oh my gosh Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #26
This is *exactly* what they mean when they say SeattleVet Jun 2013 #13
This is a record store now, next door to a yoghurt station MrScorpio Jun 2013 #16
look at the banisters and grill work. KittyWampus Jun 2013 #19
where is that? HiPointDem Jun 2013 #24
24 St. Mark's Place nt MrScorpio Jun 2013 #25
wasn't there some famous punk shop at that address? i have in the back of my mind a double HiPointDem Jun 2013 #27
No idea. MrScorpio Jun 2013 #28
i think i found it. i posted the pictures in the post you just responded to. trash & vaudeville, HiPointDem Jun 2013 #29
Just checked Google maps MrScorpio Jun 2013 #34
thanks. 'search & destroy' vintage. HiPointDem Jun 2013 #37
Thank you for posting them. I feel a lot less sorry for myself! They actually make you wonder jwirr Jun 2013 #17
Persecution, starvation, a class system that kept you and your children in your place forever Hekate Jun 2013 #21
And children have almost always worked SoCalDem Jun 2013 #32
Exactly, so defining limits was not so easy. Still, reformers came down on the side of fresh air... Hekate Jun 2013 #35
There is no such thing as the good old days. Squinch Jun 2013 #18
K & R Quantess Jun 2013 #22
Wow, incredible pictures duuser5822 Jun 2013 #23
I am fascinated with pictures from yesteryear Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #30
The good old days, oh yes, when AMERICA WAS TRULY FREE steve2470 Jun 2013 #33
Even back then most Americans did not live in such squalid conditions Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #36
that's great, I'm sure he worked very hard, sincerely nt steve2470 Jun 2013 #38
Yes, he did work hard Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #40
Wait....you missed my sarcasm tag and the other smilies. steve2470 Jun 2013 #41
I guess I did misinterpret your post Art_from_Ark Jun 2013 #42
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