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'Everyone in US under virtual surveillance' - NSA whistleblower
This was broadcast on RT in Dec 2012.
Binney, one of the best mathematicians and code breakers in the history of the National Security Agency, resigned in 2001. He claimed he no longer wanted to be associated with alleged violations of the Constitution, such as how the FBI engages in widespread and pervasive surveillance through powerful devices called 'Naris.'
RT: In light of the Petraeus/Allen scandal while the public is so focused on the details of their family drama, one may argue that the real scandal in this whole story is the power, the reach of the surveillance state. I mean if we take General Allen thousands of his personal e-mails have been sifted through private correspondence. Its not like any of those men was planning an attack on America. Does the scandal prove the notion that there is no such thing as privacy in a surveillance state?
William Binney: Yes, thats what Ive been basically saying for quite some time, is that the FBI has access to the data collected, which is basically the emails of virtually everybody in the country. And the FBI has access to it. All the congressional members are on the surveillance too, no one is excluded. They are all included. So, yes, this can happen to anyone. If they become a target for whatever reason they are targeted by the government, the government can go in, or the FBI, or other agencies of the government, they can go into their database, pull all that data collected on them over the years, and we analyze it all. So, we have to actively analyze everything theyve done for the last 10 years at least.
RT: And its not just about those, who could be planning, who could be a threat to national security, but also those, who could be just
WB: Its everybody. The Naris device, if it takes in the entire line, so it takes in all the data. In fact they advertised they can process the lines at session rates, which means 10-gigabit lines. I forgot the name of the device (its not the Naris) the other one does it at 10 gigabits. Thats why they're building Bluffdale (database facility), because they have to have more storage, because they cant figure out whats important, so they are just storing everything there. So, emails are going to be stored there in the future, but right now stored in different places around the country. But it is being collected and the FBI has access to it.
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RT: It seems that the public is divided between those, who think that the government surveillance program violates their civil liberties, and those who say, 'Ive nothing to hide. So, why should I care?' What do you say to those who think that it shouldnt concern them.
WB: The problem is if they think they are not doing anything thats wrong, they dont get to define that. The central government does, the central government defines what is right and wrong and whether or not they target you. So, its not up to the individuals. Even if they think they aren't doing something wrong, if their position on something is against what the administration has, then they could easily become a target.
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RT: Tell me about the most outrageous thing that you came across during your work at the NSA.
WB: The violations of the constitution and any number of laws that existed at the time. That was the part that I could not be associated with. Thats why I left. They were building social networks on who is communicating and with whom inside this country. So that the entire social network of everybody, of every US citizen was being compiled overtime. So, they are taking from one company alone roughly 320 million records a day. Thats probably accumulated probably close to 20 trillion over the years.
The original program that we put together to handle this to be able to identify terrorists anywhere in the world and alert anyone that they were in jeopardy. We would have been able to do that by encrypting everybodys communications except those who were targets. So, in essence you would protect their identities and the information about them until you could develop probable cause, and once you showed your probable cause, then you could do a decrypt and target them. And we could do that and isolate those people all alone. It wasnt a problem at all. There was no difficulty in that.
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http://rt.com/usa/surveillance-spying-e-mail-citizens-178/
In 2012 Binney received the Callaway award, an annual prize that recognizes those who champion constitutional rights and American values at great risk to their personal or professional lives.
This thread ties in very nicely with:
Senate Intel Committee Blocks Former Staffer From Talking To Press About Oversight Process but please watch out for the yellow snow.
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Catherina
Jun 2013
OP
You nailed it. And this is precisely what the professional weasels, whose paychecks depend
Catherina
Jun 2013
#16
Blackmail is one explanation. Another is that they can discover what it takes to buy the politician
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#38
"So I take this comment, the last words he spoke on the chat, with a grain of salt. "
ProSense
Jun 2013
#10
I already said I was confused. By your comment. I'm not at all confused about the threats to
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#12
Well you still haven't said whether you believe Snowden or Binney. I will assume you believe
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#14
So you believe Binney then? But both are saying the same thing, so that means you must
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#17
Well, we DUers who you so disdain, are having a problem with the logic here. Could YOU perhaps
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#37
Why, when I read your posts here on the wholesale spying on American citizens, I think of
RC
Jun 2013
#57
Thanks for watching. These refute the professional nonsense being spammed on these boards
Catherina
Jun 2013
#22
It's crap that they are spying on Congress? See Binney's and then Snowden's seeming contradiction
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#9
it isn't a "seeming" contradiction. It is a contradiction. And are we talking about the NSA tapping
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#20
The only difference is, is Snowden's claim the the NSA has granted Congress immunity from their
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#42
What grabs me- all 3 gentlemen say they could develop a system with built in safeguards but were not
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#18
Agreed Kitty. One of the whistle-blowers said they tried to but were shot down everytime
Catherina
Jun 2013
#32
The NATO doctrine... "If we're losing... we will blow up the world" - Halperin
Catherina
Jun 2013
#66
Clapper has a lot on his mind also. Like maybe whether he should go back to that multi million
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#45
Not exactly. If you know that politicians can be bought, if you can uncover what it takes to buy
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#46