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sabrina 1

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7. You have provided a perfect example of what the article is saying. Both Clemons and Greenwald
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 12:20 PM
Jun 2013

are well respected bloggers, but on the Left throughout the Bush era. Not on the Right. But even if they were on the Right, IF they were reporting facts, it should not matter.

Apparently, according to the article, our 'news' media has now reached a point where the 'messenger' is attacked by those who do not like the facts.

The fact is that Democrats like Ron Wyden and Jerry Adler and Scott and Grayson and most of our best most Progressive Dems have been warning about this for a long time. Do you look at them too and dismiss the whole story?

If you can't take what is on a Liberal forum, I can't help you with that. We are liberal democrats and care more the truth than about individuals. I used to be a blind partisan Dem certain that MY party could do no wrong and was willing and did take on any Republican who said otherwise. It was a painful process to realize that the world isn't that conveniently black and white and for a while I stopped commenting on political forums.

Now I want MY party to be on the right side of the issues. I don't care who the messenger is so long as they are telling the truth.

Greenwald has a long history throughout the Bush years of being one of the few independent writers who took on the Bush gang. He was supported by the left or so they said. Some on the left it appears were not that interested in facts, only in politics. They are marginal in the real world. Most Americans care about the truth regarding what is happening to this country. Greenwald HAS been targeted before, by one of those Government Contractors.

Apparently we've reached the point where writers are a threat. I didn't have to listen to morons like Peter King, who agrees with you btw. I have seen calls for the prosecutions of writers right here on DU.

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That's been my only agenda from the start. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #1
You have provided a perfect example of what the article is saying. Both Clemons and Greenwald sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #7
+1 Thanks, Sabrina magellan Jun 2013 #9
Excellent response malaise Jun 2013 #10
No, they are not well respected just on your say so (Greenwald.Clemons). Whisp Jun 2013 #11
Good god. Could you not get ANYTHING right? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #13
I don't have anyone on ignore, I love debate, even more with those who 'can't get anything left'. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #14
Cite one instance where I've declared anyone's political philosophies. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #18
Matt Rothschild and Ruth Conniff OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #19
May they rest in peace OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #24
Lewis Lapham OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #25
Lewis Lapham MSM?? grasswire Jun 2013 #27
As I said above.. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #28
How odd that you omit his largest accomplishment. grasswire Jun 2013 #29
I didn't omit shit. OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #30
Not to mention Greenwald character assassinates anyone who disagrees with him. JaneyVee Jun 2013 #31
Most of those you mentioned are either dead or they are not who the general public get their sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #39
"Greenwald needs to be careful." OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #44
Found anything yet? OilemFirchen Jun 2013 #38
My feelings exactly mimi85 Jun 2013 #2
Thank you Mimi, that was an interesting read. Rec'd n/t Catherina Jun 2013 #3
There are agendas here, and it's going to bite someone in the ass. randome Jun 2013 #4
Imagine finding you here slamming Greenwald? Who would have thought? Lol! sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #8
Advocacy Journalism and Muckrakers... KoKo Jun 2013 #37
indeed, all those agents pretending to be journalists, its nothing new. Monkie Jun 2013 #5
Carl Bernstein's article is a reminder of what many our "free press journalists" KoKo Jun 2013 #36
He wasn't impartial or ethical as a lawyer...why would Greenwald be either msanthrope Jun 2013 #6
Dragging up an old legal case again? I haven't clicked, but is that the one where the judge sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #12
Hree is part of the opinion... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #15
Yes, I thought it was that same old case. What a stellar record Greenwald sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #22
You are welcome Sabrina. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #26
"The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical under two" msanthrope Jun 2013 #32
Mmm .... sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #16
Funny that the judge ruled that his actions were not unethical but you claim that he was... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #17
Thank you again. Disgusting attempt to smear a man because of a political disagreement. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #23
"The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical under two" msanthrope Jun 2013 #33
You can weasel your way all around it but the judge's words are clear. As for your "A 52-page Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #34
You seem pretty confused. Let me clear up a few things for you. msanthrope Jun 2013 #35
Mr. Greenwald and I are also quoting the ruling. And I asked for a link to the originial case the Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #42
I gave you the cite. Kindly read what you are opining on. Heck...I even gave you an online msanthrope Jun 2013 #45
Crickets..have you read the opinion yet?? nt msanthrope Jun 2013 #40
Some of us work... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #43
I've given you the citation. I also gave you an online resource. Why haven't you read the case msanthrope Jun 2013 #46
I have read the contents of your link. It has nothing about a 52-page transcript... Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #47
Again..the citation was given. Read the case. If you lack the ability msanthrope Jun 2013 #48
You provide a cititation but can provide no link to assess the veracity. Nice racket Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #49
Let me see if I have this correctly...you are unable to access the cases you opine on? msanthrope Jun 2013 #50
You gave me the link to the appeal. Can you or can you not give me a link to the original case. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #51
If you have the cite, look it up! Don't know how to do that? Then perhaps you msanthrope Jun 2013 #52
Congratulations on parroting a Little Green Footballs comment TO THE LETTER. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #53
Look at the dates--LGF and Crooks and Liars copied me. LGF links to my OP on DU. msanthrope Jun 2013 #54
'For me, Glenn Greenwald has always been an asshole.' Rex Jun 2013 #20
He's clearly not objective treestar Jun 2013 #21
News is what somebody somewhere wants to suppress; all the rest is advertising. Lord Northcliffe Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2013 #41
bump for relevance nt flamingdem Jul 2013 #55
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