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reusrename

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33. I just read the opinion and it is complete and total garbage.

Reply to Savannahmann (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 18, 2013, 02:20 PM

Jun 2013

Those bastards suck so bad at being Americans.

They have decided that your rights are not something that you are born with.

In their dystopian view, you must know and understand that your right to remain silent is based on the 5th amendment in order for it to apply.

In other words, you don't really have any such rights unless and until you sufficiently prove to them that you know where your rights come from (which is from them, of course, not our Creator).

I think Miranda should be more like this:

"You are under arrest, you no longer have to ask 'mother may I' in order to have your right to remain silent respected, ..."

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Supreme Court Ruling, better not remain silent after all. [View all] Savannahmann Jun 2013 OP

Don't talk to the police. If you say something, they can incarcerate you for telling a lie. Give byeya Jun 2013 #1

You ask them premium Jun 2013 #2

You are correct here, in my view byeya Jun 2013 #6

At a workshop, we all had to shout, over & over again duhneece Jun 2013 #7

Exactly, premium Jun 2013 #8

Works until they threaten to charge you with "obstruction of justice" davidn3600 Jun 2013 #26

Simply saying you invoke your right to remain silent Gman Jun 2013 #3

Apparently, the guy's mistake was to answer some questions but not others. longship Jun 2013 #4

Ding!!!! WovenGems Jun 2013 #5

I think the take away is don't answer any questions at all, beyond your name. Shrike47 Jun 2013 #9

Almost. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #11

At a training I attended for non-violent civil disobedience, the trainer from the HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #31

Is that recent? AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #32

Nov 2011 - Yes, there were clear consequences for clamming up, but HardTimes99 Jun 2013 #35

This is not new, and that was not his right. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #10

I keep reading the 5th Amendment Coccydynia Jun 2013 #14

That was the supreme courts findings. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #18

I understood that. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #22

They did. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #23

Which is why I said Coccydynia Jun 2013 #24

Ok, sorry. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #27

No worries. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #28

A true originalist would have nothing to do with Miranda rights one way or the other. former9thward Jun 2013 #25

Check this out. JDPriestly Jun 2013 #12

There is absolutely no obligation to assist the police in their investigation.... Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2013 #13

Just say. "If I am under arrest, get me a lawyer, now.".. SoCalDem Jun 2013 #15

You could be sitting there for a while. AtheistCrusader Jun 2013 #19

Ahh the sweet smell of authoritarianism..... blackspade Jun 2013 #16

From a ridiculous majority. mountain grammy Jun 2013 #17

Indeed. blackspade Jun 2013 #21

Very strange ruling... increasingly, we're going to have to rely on the good sense of juries. reformist2 Jun 2013 #20

The Brits use this: reusrename Jun 2013 #29

When it comes to the English Savannahmann Jun 2013 #30

I just read the opinion and it is complete and total garbage. reusrename Jun 2013 #33

Yeah, those rights should protect Americans...even when they're unaware of them. Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #34