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Catherina

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65. The secret AT&T spy room? That was NSA. The whisteblowers confirmed it
Tue Jun 18, 2013, 07:09 PM
Jun 2013

but it was NSA operating it. They had a secret room and it was their employees

I'm thinking along the same lines you are. There's a lot of dirt here. The whistleblowers also stated that there are several more of these throughout the US, 10-20.

The NSA Is Building the Country’s Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)

By James Bamford
03.15.12


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As chief and one of the two cofounders of the agency’s Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center, Binney and his team designed much of the infrastructure that’s still likely used to intercept international and foreign communications.

He explains that the agency could have installed its tapping gear at the nation’s cable landing stations—the more than two dozen sites on the periphery of the US where fiber-optic cables come ashore. If it had taken that route, the NSA would have been able to limit its eavesdropping to just international communications, which at the time was all that was allowed under US law. Instead it chose to put the wiretapping rooms at key junction points throughout the country—large, windowless buildings known as switches—thus gaining access to not just international communications but also to most of the domestic traffic flowing through the US. The network of intercept stations goes far beyond the single room in an AT&T building in San Francisco exposed by a whistle-blower in 2006. “I think there’s 10 to 20 of them,” Binney says. “That’s not just San Francisco; they have them in the middle of the country and also on the East Coast.”

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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1

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That explains a lot. Autumn Jun 2013 #1
What else can we call it? If you snoop into a man's computer Catherina Jun 2013 #5
Would explain (along with lobbyist influence) why our Congresscritters seem to KoKo Jun 2013 #11
You nailed it. And this is precisely what the professional weasels, whose paychecks depend Catherina Jun 2013 #16
Blackmail is one explanation. Another is that they can discover what it takes to buy the politician AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #38
Yeah, otherwise known as the J. Edgar Hoover treatment. n/t ReRe Jun 2013 #53
Kick. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #2
Proving again that Snowden doesn't know what he's talking about? ProSense Jun 2013 #3
What is your point, seriously, I think I am missing it. So let me try. sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #7
"So I take this comment, the last words he spoke on the chat, with a grain of salt. " ProSense Jun 2013 #10
I already said I was confused. By your comment. I'm not at all confused about the threats to sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #12
No, ProSense Jun 2013 #13
Well you still haven't said whether you believe Snowden or Binney. I will assume you believe sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #14
Who do you believe? ProSense Jun 2013 #15
So you believe Binney then? But both are saying the same thing, so that means you must sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #17
Are you intentionally not making sense? n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #19
"YOU MAKE NO SENSE!" sibelian Jun 2013 #60
You're wasting your time on this one magellan Jun 2013 #24
Exactly right. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #39
"It is difficult to get a (wo)man... RevStPatrick Jun 2013 #44
+1 magellan Jun 2013 #47
Twisted Upton Sinclair's words right into a nice little sexist rant, didn't you? ReRe Jun 2013 #56
That had nothing to do with sexism. RevStPatrick Jun 2013 #64
Thank you very very much for the source! ReRe Jun 2013 #67
Don't worry...they can run you around in circles zeemike Jun 2013 #34
Thanks ProSense. Beautifully made case. ucrdem Jun 2013 #21
Well, we DUers who you so disdain, are having a problem with the logic here. Could YOU perhaps sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #37
Is this sarcasm? AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #40
No it's not... ReRe Jun 2013 #58
LOL! Vanje Jun 2013 #49
Why are you wasting your time with the FUD monger? n/t hootinholler Jun 2013 #25
LOL! Clown. n/t ProSense Jun 2013 #26
Thank you! hootinholler Jun 2013 #28
Well, ProSense Jun 2013 #29
Ooooo, that only rated one link? hootinholler Jun 2013 #30
Actually: ProSense Jun 2013 #31
Why, when I read your posts here on the wholesale spying on American citizens, I think of RC Jun 2013 #57
^^^+++ ReRe Jun 2013 #59
Wow. Well said. AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #41
Jury Results aikoaiko Jun 2013 #51
Fear Uncertainty and Doubt hootinholler Jun 2013 #63
Great interview- well worth watching! Poll_Blind Jun 2013 #4
Thanks for watching. These refute the professional nonsense being spammed on these boards Catherina Jun 2013 #22
GEN Allen's emails weren't his giftedgirl77 Jun 2013 #6
It's crap that they are spying on Congress? See Binney's and then Snowden's seeming contradiction sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #9
it isn't a "seeming" contradiction. It is a contradiction. And are we talking about the NSA tapping KittyWampus Jun 2013 #20
The only difference is, is Snowden's claim the the NSA has granted Congress immunity from their sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #42
Why do Binney and Snowden's statements have to "add up"? ReRe Jun 2013 #61
Recommend...well worth the watch. KoKo Jun 2013 #8
What grabs me- all 3 gentlemen say they could develop a system with built in safeguards but were not KittyWampus Jun 2013 #18
Agreed Kitty. One of the whistle-blowers said they tried to but were shot down everytime Catherina Jun 2013 #32
Hey, they got to make their money some way. zeemike Jun 2013 #43
The NATO doctrine... "If we're losing... we will blow up the world" - Halperin Catherina Jun 2013 #66
That was interesting about Halprin zeemike Jun 2013 #68
It's bittersweet like you said Catherina Jun 2013 #70
Yes marions ghost Jun 2013 #52
Exactly! ReRe Jun 2013 #62
Wish he had provided PROOF-we'd have been 6 months ahead on this. n/t JimDandy Jun 2013 #23
Proof is hidden away which explains why Snowden took such drastic steps, Catherina Jun 2013 #27
Clapper gave his testimoney after Snowden absconded. randome Jun 2013 #33
Clapper has a lot on his mind also. Like maybe whether he should go back to that multi million sabrina 1 Jun 2013 #45
But then we'd have to put up with whatever mud Union Scribe Jun 2013 #73
J. Edgar Hoover's wet dream. xtraxritical Jun 2013 #35
Could the secrets of Congress members be why the majority of them DJ13 Jun 2013 #36
Not exactly. If you know that politicians can be bought, if you can uncover what it takes to buy AnotherMcIntosh Jun 2013 #46
And could also explain why Obama zeemike Jun 2013 #48
William Binney infers: It's the Constitution, Stupid! Dec 2012 ReRe Jun 2013 #50
With the way they all lined up behind GWB to do anything he said or wanted Rex Jun 2013 #54
The secret AT&T spy room? That was NSA. The whisteblowers confirmed it Catherina Jun 2013 #65
k&r TakeALeftTurn Jun 2013 #55
I have to wonder how, say quakerboy Jun 2013 #69
Explains how Impeachment got off the table. Octafish Jun 2013 #71
Wait a minute - he resigned in 2001? jazzimov Jun 2013 #72
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