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In reply to the discussion: Everyone in US under surveillance incl Congress - NSA whistleblower [View all]Catherina
(35,568 posts)65. The secret AT&T spy room? That was NSA. The whisteblowers confirmed it
but it was NSA operating it. They had a secret room and it was their employees
I'm thinking along the same lines you are. There's a lot of dirt here. The whistleblowers also stated that there are several more of these throughout the US, 10-20.
The NSA Is Building the Countrys Biggest Spy Center (Watch What You Say)
By James Bamford
03.15.12

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As chief and one of the two cofounders of the agencys Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center, Binney and his team designed much of the infrastructure thats still likely used to intercept international and foreign communications.
He explains that the agency could have installed its tapping gear at the nations cable landing stationsthe more than two dozen sites on the periphery of the US where fiber-optic cables come ashore. If it had taken that route, the NSA would have been able to limit its eavesdropping to just international communications, which at the time was all that was allowed under US law. Instead it chose to put the wiretapping rooms at key junction points throughout the countrylarge, windowless buildings known as switchesthus gaining access to not just international communications but also to most of the domestic traffic flowing through the US. The network of intercept stations goes far beyond the single room in an AT&T building in San Francisco exposed by a whistle-blower in 2006. I think theres 10 to 20 of them, Binney says. Thats not just San Francisco; they have them in the middle of the country and also on the East Coast.
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1
By James Bamford
03.15.12

...
As chief and one of the two cofounders of the agencys Signals Intelligence Automation Research Center, Binney and his team designed much of the infrastructure thats still likely used to intercept international and foreign communications.
He explains that the agency could have installed its tapping gear at the nations cable landing stationsthe more than two dozen sites on the periphery of the US where fiber-optic cables come ashore. If it had taken that route, the NSA would have been able to limit its eavesdropping to just international communications, which at the time was all that was allowed under US law. Instead it chose to put the wiretapping rooms at key junction points throughout the countrylarge, windowless buildings known as switchesthus gaining access to not just international communications but also to most of the domestic traffic flowing through the US. The network of intercept stations goes far beyond the single room in an AT&T building in San Francisco exposed by a whistle-blower in 2006. I think theres 10 to 20 of them, Binney says. Thats not just San Francisco; they have them in the middle of the country and also on the East Coast.
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1
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Everyone in US under surveillance incl Congress - NSA whistleblower [View all]
Catherina
Jun 2013
OP
You nailed it. And this is precisely what the professional weasels, whose paychecks depend
Catherina
Jun 2013
#16
Blackmail is one explanation. Another is that they can discover what it takes to buy the politician
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#38
"So I take this comment, the last words he spoke on the chat, with a grain of salt. "
ProSense
Jun 2013
#10
I already said I was confused. By your comment. I'm not at all confused about the threats to
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#12
Well you still haven't said whether you believe Snowden or Binney. I will assume you believe
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#14
So you believe Binney then? But both are saying the same thing, so that means you must
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#17
Well, we DUers who you so disdain, are having a problem with the logic here. Could YOU perhaps
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#37
Why, when I read your posts here on the wholesale spying on American citizens, I think of
RC
Jun 2013
#57
Thanks for watching. These refute the professional nonsense being spammed on these boards
Catherina
Jun 2013
#22
It's crap that they are spying on Congress? See Binney's and then Snowden's seeming contradiction
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#9
it isn't a "seeming" contradiction. It is a contradiction. And are we talking about the NSA tapping
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#20
The only difference is, is Snowden's claim the the NSA has granted Congress immunity from their
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#42
What grabs me- all 3 gentlemen say they could develop a system with built in safeguards but were not
KittyWampus
Jun 2013
#18
Agreed Kitty. One of the whistle-blowers said they tried to but were shot down everytime
Catherina
Jun 2013
#32
The NATO doctrine... "If we're losing... we will blow up the world" - Halperin
Catherina
Jun 2013
#66
Clapper has a lot on his mind also. Like maybe whether he should go back to that multi million
sabrina 1
Jun 2013
#45
Not exactly. If you know that politicians can be bought, if you can uncover what it takes to buy
AnotherMcIntosh
Jun 2013
#46